0010126: Enemy AI does not feel suited to 8-way aiming - DEV Arcen

ID	Project	Category		Date Submitted	Last Update

0010126	Valley 2	Gameplay - General Complaint		Dec 23, 2012 9:37 am	Dec 31, 2012 7:56 am

Reporter	Gemzo	Assigned To
Status	considering	Resolution	open
Product Version	0.706

Summary	0010126: Enemy AI does not feel suited to 8-way aiming
Description	This is a rather general but major issue with the game I feel. While 8-way aiming plays well and seems to be fine, the other side of the equation has not been changed; the enemies. My major complaint is how enemies shoot you. They check if you're in range and then spam you to oblivion until they/you die or you are out of range. In addition they shoot 360 degrees while you cannot (except for the ceiling cannons and bouncing fireballs I guess). This combined with the new addition of spell calibers (which is an interesting and engaging mechanic IMO) causes walls of spam that you can't do anything against. With the landsquids and bosses you can't wait for a break in the barrage to get shots in, because they don't exist. With swamp monsters, their fire rate is slow enough that you could jump around and get in some hits at close range, but only with a lot of room against a single swamp monster. Landsquids are just stupid, and I don't say that lightly. They shoot a super long-range shot that not only fires in extremely quick succession, but slides, and even has very high caliber (I'm guessing like 100~). As soon as you walk in range these guys dominate the entire battlefield with unending spam. Only a few normal spells work well against them, so you usually have to resort to your ammo spell to dispatch them without taking damage. Although they may do very low damage, the concept simply isn't fun. Bosses aren't even fully implemented so I can't much about them. As for "but not all the enemies are implemented yet," that does not mean the current enemies should behave as they do currently. And especially, that does not mean I believe this is fun enemy behavior for future nor present enemies. The spam has got to go. What should replace it? I don't know, I just know that this isn't right. Note that this isn't saying enemies can't shoot a lot of projectiles... Just, they need to not do it constantly for every moment they are alive while you're in range.
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Internal Weight	Feature Suggestion

LayZboy Dec 23, 2012 6:26 pm reporter ~0029289	The triangle spell of the boss guys is a bit ridiculous, it has pretty high Caliber and is spammed faster than all the other spells they have. Normally we just deliberately kill our selfs to get a new boss spell which isn't fun.

Gemzo Dec 23, 2012 10:07 pm reporter ~0029294 Last edited: Dec 23, 2012 10:08 pm	You can have everyone exit the room, wait like 5(?) seconds, then re-enter to reload the chunk instead. Just don't waste too much HP figuring out which spell he's gonna use.

zaaq Dec 29, 2012 12:27 am reporter ~0029344	The swamp monsters are the worst for me. There's a very small window when it's possible to attack them, and no pre-animation to prep a shot. They then launch a ball of snot that's practically impossible to dodge. I've stopped trying to kill them at all, and just turn back if I'm low on health.

tigersfan Dec 31, 2012 7:56 am reporter ~0029398	Personally, I would consider just about everything (except the art) to be in flux with the enemies.

Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Dec 23, 2012 9:37 am	Gemzo	New Issue
Dec 23, 2012 6:26 pm	LayZboy	Note Added: 0029289
Dec 23, 2012 10:07 pm	Gemzo	Note Added: 0029294
Dec 23, 2012 10:08 pm	Gemzo	Note Edited: 0029294
Dec 28, 2012 9:48 am	zaaq	Relationship added	related to 0010113
Dec 29, 2012 12:27 am	zaaq	Note Added: 0029344
Dec 31, 2012 7:56 am	tigersfan	Note Added: 0029398
Dec 31, 2012 7:56 am	tigersfan	Internal Weight	=> Feature Suggestion
Dec 31, 2012 7:56 am	tigersfan	Status	new => considering