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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0004275Valley 1Bug - OtherOct 12, 2011 6:17 pm
Reporterjerith Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionopen 
Product Version0.505 
Fixed in Version0.522 
Summary0004275: Inaccessible rooms.
DescriptionI managed to find a building that is mostly inaccessible. The dungeon map claims that there is a stairway room connected to the first room, but there is no door for it. All other rooms connected to the first are accessible, including the room containing the other entrance to the building. World file attached.
TagsNo tags attached.
Internal WeightMajor Problem

Relationships

has duplicate 0004336 closed Building Gen -- dungeon map shows stairwell, no stairwell door in room 
has duplicate 0004412 closed Stairwell and other rooms on map have no door 
has duplicate 0004635 closed Missing rooms (libraries) 
related to 0004503 closed Unreachable room 
related to 0004810 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Cave missing entrance to room 

Activities

tigersfan

Sep 29, 2011 9:05 am

reporter   ~0014600

Confirmed.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 29, 2011 9:25 am

administrator   ~0014607

Josh, is this a building with two entrances? Check outside the building. If so, then the rest of the building is probably accessed through the other exterior entrance. I'd be really surprised if this is an actual bug, though I've not checked yet.

tigersfan

Sep 29, 2011 9:27 am

reporter   ~0014609

I did check it, there are two exterior doors, both lead to the same "region" of the building. Neither will lead to the staircase that is definitely showing on the dungeon map.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 29, 2011 9:29 am

administrator   ~0014610

Okay, thanks. Will have to look at it. Wasn't sure if you know about the secondary entrances. And there's no side-links, right? Again, just making sure -- the logic on this sort of thing is pretty good and has never messed up before, so I'm surprised to find a case here where there's really a problem. Every other time thus far it's been some detail that was missed on the map.

tigersfan

Sep 29, 2011 9:32 am

reporter   ~0014614

I didn't see any side links. I was actually pretty skeptical when I saw this report too, so I went in and looked before I did anything with it.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 29, 2011 9:36 am

administrator   ~0014616

Okay, all good -- I'll have it on my list, then.

jerith

Sep 29, 2011 9:39 am

reporter   ~0014618

The main room is small enough that I can see the whole thing on my screen at once. There are doors to all the other rooms shown on the dungeon map except the stairs. The second entrance is in one of the other rooms, and is actually the entrance I came in through initially. (That might be relevant, and I should have mentioned it in my initial message.) All the other rooms only have doors leading back to the main room, although I did not search exhaustively for a misplaced door.

jerith

Sep 29, 2011 5:37 pm

reporter   ~0014737

I haven't come across another inaccessible area, but I've just found a building (also with two entrances) that has a door linked to a vent, and no white line on the room with the vent in it. It may not be the same issue, but it's the first time I've seen this effect and it seems like it's related. My guess is that there's something fishy in the handling for buildings with multiple entrances that sometimes kicks up weirdness.

I'll upload the new world file demonstrating this.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 29, 2011 6:23 pm

administrator   ~0014742

The vents without white lines are okay -- that's an "overflow vent" meaning there was not room for a door. When you come out on the other side, you'll likely be coming out of a door.

jerith

Sep 29, 2011 6:30 pm

reporter   ~0014744

Ah, right. I didn't know about those.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 29, 2011 6:31 pm

administrator   ~0014745

Yeah, that would actually make a good wiki topic... Josh, if you're listening? I think I explained "overflow vents" somewhere better, actually, too -- in mantis or the forums, I forget which.

jerith

Sep 30, 2011 7:16 am

reporter   ~0014853

The duplicate ticket has a world file attached, so don't ignore it. :-)

tigersfan

Sep 30, 2011 7:19 am

reporter   ~0014854

It's not ignored. It's standard procedure for us to close all but one of duplicate tickets. But, it's still attached to this one, so Chris can get the world file if he needs it, as well as see my note that I confirmed this again on the other ticket. :)

jerith

Sep 30, 2011 7:22 am

reporter   ~0014856

I know it's still there, but I tend to ignore duplicates in my own issue trackers (95% of the time they have no new information), and just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost. Slightly different procedures, I guess.

tigersfan

Sep 30, 2011 7:24 am

reporter   ~0014857

Understood. This one also has a world file that shows the problem pretty well, so, it's likely Chris won't need the other one. But, if he does, he can see it, because it's marked as a dupe.

tigersfan

Sep 30, 2011 8:01 am

reporter   ~0014864

Chris: http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AVWW_-_Overflow_Vents

tigersfan

Oct 3, 2011 7:47 am

reporter   ~0015397

This is confirmed again. Sometimes this seems to happen because one of the rooms doesn't have enough space, but, there is definitely a bug here with building gen. See 4412 for perhaps best example.

tigersfan

Oct 12, 2011 8:53 am

reporter   ~0016449

Good news and bad news on this one. Good news is that this problem occurred because the hallway was too small. The recent hallway changes have made it so that this problem won't occur again. Bad news is, when I tried to load this world, I got a boatload of unhandled errors. I'm not sure if they are related or not.

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 12, 2011 8:57 am

administrator   ~0016450

Hmm, the unhandled exceptions are based on it trying to upgrade an old world, and failing to do so because of some of the recent MP changes. This is one to forward to Keith, if you will. Thanks!

tigersfan

Oct 12, 2011 8:59 am

reporter   ~0016451

Ok, I'll close this ticket and make a new one for him to keep the issues separate.

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 12, 2011 9:05 am

administrator   ~0016452

Thanks!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Sep 29, 2011 2:48 am jerith New Issue
Sep 29, 2011 2:48 am jerith File Added: inaccessible_room_505.zip
Sep 29, 2011 9:05 am tigersfan Internal Weight => Major Problem
Sep 29, 2011 9:05 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014600
Sep 29, 2011 9:05 am tigersfan Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Sep 29, 2011 9:05 am tigersfan Status new => assigned
Sep 29, 2011 9:25 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0014607
Sep 29, 2011 9:27 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014609
Sep 29, 2011 9:29 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0014610
Sep 29, 2011 9:32 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014614
Sep 29, 2011 9:36 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0014616
Sep 29, 2011 9:39 am jerith Note Added: 0014618
Sep 29, 2011 5:37 pm jerith Note Added: 0014737
Sep 29, 2011 5:42 pm jerith File Added: odd_connection_508.zip
Sep 29, 2011 6:23 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0014742
Sep 29, 2011 6:30 pm jerith Note Added: 0014744
Sep 29, 2011 6:31 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0014745
Sep 30, 2011 7:08 am tigersfan Relationship added has duplicate 0004336
Sep 30, 2011 7:16 am jerith Note Added: 0014853
Sep 30, 2011 7:19 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014854
Sep 30, 2011 7:22 am jerith Note Added: 0014856
Sep 30, 2011 7:24 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014857
Sep 30, 2011 8:01 am tigersfan Note Added: 0014864
Oct 2, 2011 2:11 pm jerith Relationship added related to 0004503
Oct 3, 2011 7:43 am tigersfan Relationship added has duplicate 0004412
Oct 3, 2011 7:47 am tigersfan Note Added: 0015397
Oct 6, 2011 6:17 pm jerith Relationship added has duplicate 0004635
Oct 12, 2011 8:52 am tigersfan File Added: UnhandledErrors.txt
Oct 12, 2011 8:53 am tigersfan Note Added: 0016449
Oct 12, 2011 8:57 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0016450
Oct 12, 2011 8:59 am tigersfan Note Added: 0016451
Oct 12, 2011 8:59 am tigersfan Status assigned => resolved
Oct 12, 2011 9:00 am tigersfan Fixed in Version => 0.522
Oct 12, 2011 9:05 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0016452
Oct 12, 2011 6:17 pm Bossman Relationship added related to 0004810