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0015291The Last FederationGameplay IssueMay 27, 2014 2:34 pm
ReporterHistidine Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version1.022 (What Lies Beneath) 
Fixed in Version1.023 (Uprisings) 
Summary0015291: +300 mutual attitude to start Federation is annoying roadblock
DescriptionEven with three of the best attitude buildings on each side (+0.36/month) it still takes 13.89 years to go from zero attitude to +300. And doing it using influence buildings means being railroaded down a certain set of races due to the limited combinations possible and the heavy attitude penalties from unliked buildings.

Granted, trade and quality-of-life bonuses will speed things up a bit. Still, I think the requirement should be +150 to +200 at most.
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Drak

May 24, 2014 6:55 pm

reporter   ~0038331

Last edited: May 24, 2014 6:57 pm

I've learned to use the "Well-being", trade, and most importantly, mutual wars to raise relations between races (Interracial relations go up like crazy when they're both fighting the same enemy. :). That being said, that last (and the most potent) option only works if you're not going for an all races in federation win. (Well, that's not TECHNICALLY true, you CAN do some warring with the Burlust for instance, then convince them to join later do to overwhelming force, but it's kinda a pain to work with the Burlust.)

Also, multiple buildings stack, so you can build 3 of the best, then 3 of the second best, then 3 of the third best, etc. And the relation bump per month can get quite high.

timfortress

May 25, 2014 5:23 pm

reporter   ~0038337

If you watch an observe game its so easy to get 300+ in late game without doing anything.

nas1m

May 26, 2014 4:26 pm

reporter   ~0038342

Getting a mutual attitude of 300+ felt like ages the last time.
For a new standard value 200 might be a good start.

Alternatively more special "discount" opportunities could be added to either lower the threshold for a specific pair of races or provide a significant attitude boost based on the current situation.

Ideally the player would be required to invest something to further this situation, though, to prevent things from becoming too easy ;)...

Finally the threshold could be lowered somewhat for Normal difficulty and downwards, while being kept for either Hard+ or Harder+. This way everybody could get what he/she wants...

Chris_McElligottPark

May 27, 2014 2:34 pm

administrator   ~0038349

Thanks!

* The mutual attitude required for races to form the federation is now only 100, rather than 300.
** However, the mutual attitude required for the Skylaxians, Acutians, or Andors to invite other races into the federation remains 300.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 24, 2014 11:50 am Histidine New Issue
May 24, 2014 6:55 pm Drak Note Added: 0038331
May 24, 2014 6:57 pm Drak Note Edited: 0038331
May 25, 2014 5:23 pm timfortress Note Added: 0038337
May 26, 2014 4:26 pm nas1m Note Added: 0038342
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Internal Weight => New
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0038349
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => resolved
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 1.023 (Uprisings)
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
May 27, 2014 2:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark