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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021094AI War 2SuggestionApr 24, 2019 1:35 pm
Reportertrillioneyes Assigned ToRocketAssistedPuffin  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBETA 0.852 Directness Is Better 
Fixed in VersionBETA 0.853 An Officer And A Bunch Of Fleets 
Summary0021094: Stronger spire frigates
DescriptionSpire frigates seem pretty worthless in comparison to other types of fleets, especially since they count the same toward the "too many fleets on one planet" cap. They'd need to be a lot stronger in order to be worth paying attention to.
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RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 22, 2019 5:12 am

reporter   ~0051257

I wouldn't boost the Lance focused Frigate. I've seen that thing murder hundreds of AI ships in seconds by itself numerous times.

It would be the secondary weapons I'd boost probably.

RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 22, 2019 6:42 pm

reporter   ~0051300

Gave them a minor durability increase and 50% damage increase on the secondary weapons. They're also faster.

I want to see the variants a bit more myself before doing more than that for now.

trillioneyes

Apr 22, 2019 6:43 pm

reporter   ~0051301

Sounds good, I'm excited to try them!

ptarth

Apr 22, 2019 6:50 pm

reporter   ~0051302

I've not had much success with the Lance frigate. Perhaps because I rely on autotarget and autokite especially versus armor piercing foes. It just dies so quickly.

RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 22, 2019 6:53 pm

reporter   ~0051303

Last edited: Apr 22, 2019 7:07 pm

Humm, I've always had it do fairly well without really micromanaging it. Interesting to hear.

I'll keep an eye on the thing.

EDIT: After reading that I gave them a bigger health boost. It's not super amazing, but I'll look into the health of these centrepieces next time I have a test session. That seems to come up often.

ptarth

Apr 22, 2019 7:33 pm

reporter   ~0051305

I've attached a save with the current game I have with the Lancer if you want to check to see if I'm generally ineffective with the ship or there is something I'm overlooking. Compared to my other fleets, I leave the Spire ship at home to dust bookshelves.
snipe.save (934,748 bytes)
snipe.savemet (48 bytes)

RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 22, 2019 7:41 pm

reporter   ~0051307

Ah, thank you.

I would note that's not the Lancer - they all have a Lance weapon, but the "Lancer" I refer to is one with three beams instead of one plus a secondary weapon. You have one of the other types.

Saying that...that weapon could be improved a lot.

trillioneyes

Apr 23, 2019 1:59 pm

reporter   ~0051344

I got my hands on a laser frigate in my latest game and it's feeling a lot better to use. At first I was kind of disappointed still because I was expecting something along the lines of the Fallen Spire from the first game, but I think a more reasonable expectation is somewhere between the lower-end FS ships and the spire fleetships you got from asteroids. With that comparison in mind I'm pretty happy with where spire frigates are right now!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 21, 2019 9:18 pm trillioneyes New Issue
Apr 22, 2019 5:12 am RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051257
Apr 22, 2019 5:22 am RocketAssistedPuffin Assigned To => RocketAssistedPuffin
Apr 22, 2019 5:22 am RocketAssistedPuffin Status new => assigned
Apr 22, 2019 6:42 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Status assigned => requires feedback
Apr 22, 2019 6:42 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051300
Apr 22, 2019 6:43 pm trillioneyes Note Added: 0051301
Apr 22, 2019 6:50 pm ptarth Note Added: 0051302
Apr 22, 2019 6:53 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051303
Apr 22, 2019 7:07 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Edited: 0051303
Apr 22, 2019 7:33 pm ptarth File Added: snipe.save
Apr 22, 2019 7:33 pm ptarth File Added: snipe.savemet
Apr 22, 2019 7:33 pm ptarth Note Added: 0051305
Apr 22, 2019 7:41 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051307
Apr 23, 2019 1:59 pm trillioneyes Note Added: 0051344
Apr 24, 2019 1:35 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Status requires feedback => resolved
Apr 24, 2019 1:35 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Resolution open => fixed
Apr 24, 2019 1:35 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Fixed in Version => BETA 0.853 An Officer And A Bunch Of Fleets