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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0025063AI War 2SuggestionMay 24, 2021 9:06 pm
ReporterStrategic Sage Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version3.002 More Tweaks 
Summary0025063: Journal for Standing Orders
DescriptionHaving different hotkeys for turning these on and off is confusing some new players per discussions on Steam and discord. A notification & Journal the first time one is activated by the player seems like a good idea, to explain the N/Ctrl-N or left-click/right-click for turning them on and off.
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BadgerBadger

May 24, 2021 9:46 am

manager   ~0061797

What about just disabling the keybinding for "hold fire mode" by default? I think players who want to use it can rebind it, but I think it's very much a n00b trap. I've seen a bunch of new players turn on hold fire mode by accident and then get really confused in my MP games.

Strategic Sage

May 24, 2021 12:23 pm

reporter   ~0061803

Hmm. I think it should have a default keybind, but I definitely can see benefit from it being something that's not as easy to hit accidentally.

Strategic Sage

May 24, 2021 12:25 pm

reporter   ~0061804

Another idea to help out could be to have a notification/pop-up if the player issues an attack move with units that are in hold fire - "Commander, our ships cannot attack while in Hold Fire mode' or whatever.

BadgerBadger

May 24, 2021 12:50 pm

manager   ~0061805

Why does it need to have a default keybinding? I've disabled the keybinding for myself, and almost never use it (I basically only use it for Zenith Trader purchases). If you want to enable it then you should need to go out of your way (either by clicking or by binding it yourself).

Strategic Sage

May 24, 2021 1:17 pm

reporter   ~0061806

From my point of view, because it's on the standing orders panel at the lower-right of the screen and all the other ones there have keybinds. Anything that is presented that way in the UI should have a default bind IMO. I don't use it a lot, but it is occasionally useful. Having something like that on the screen without a hotkey is not good.

Smidlee

May 24, 2021 7:23 pm

reporter   ~0061811

I think the "N" key is too close to the space bar. I'm sure I'm not the only person who can't type correctly on a keyboard. For hold fire either it shouldn't be bind by default or rebind the hot key away from the space bar at least.

crawlers

May 24, 2021 9:06 pm

reporter   ~0061812

I never use it. I understand that some people do, but this use doesn't prevent it from being a noob trap.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 24, 2021 8:38 am Strategic Sage New Issue
May 24, 2021 9:46 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0061797
May 24, 2021 12:23 pm Strategic Sage Note Added: 0061803
May 24, 2021 12:25 pm Strategic Sage Note Added: 0061804
May 24, 2021 12:50 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0061805
May 24, 2021 1:17 pm Strategic Sage Note Added: 0061806
May 24, 2021 7:23 pm Smidlee Note Added: 0061811
May 24, 2021 9:06 pm crawlers Note Added: 0061812