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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0026800AI War 2Bug - GameplayAug 7, 2022 5:58 pm
ReporterLord Of Nothing Assigned ToBadgerBadger  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version4.008 Exogalactic Wayfinding 
Fixed in Version5.504 Multiplayer Bug Smiting Part 2 
Summary0026800: Mysteriously long Multiphase on some AI guardians.
DescriptionI have no idea how this happened, but there are some AI guardians (Teslas) on Nygaard in the attached save that have been in multi-phase since they left the wormhole on the planet a minute or two ago, and remain in it for several more minutes afterwards. I'm not even using any phasing weapons, so they either got targeted by their own side, or the architrave (In which case they've been in multiphase for a *long* time, and it would also indicate that border aggression against architraves is somehow getting thrown against the player, so I'll keep an eye out for that and file a proper report if I have firm evidence.)

But in any case, something is clearly wrong for them to stay in multi-phase so long.
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Lord Of Nothing

Mar 28, 2022 10:25 am

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Lord Of Nothing

Mar 28, 2022 10:37 am

reporter   ~0065610

(They finally came out of multiphase around 6-7 minutes later.)

BadgerBadger

Apr 2, 2022 3:31 pm

manager   ~0065679

There are no guardians on Nygaard, only player ships.

I also checked the planet Troia (from the save game name) and there are no weirdly phased ships. There are some ships that are supposed to go in and out of phase, and they seem to be working correctly from a cursory examination.

Feel free to reopen this if you have another save

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 2, 2022 7:39 pm

reporter   ~0065684

Urgh, my sincere apologies, I don't know how that happened. The attached save should be the right one. Sorry again.
Permenant Multiphase.save (415,429 bytes)

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 2, 2022 7:40 pm

reporter   ~0065685

Reopened with correct save, my apologies.

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 2, 2022 7:46 pm

reporter   ~0065687

(I think I remember now, the other save was me being confused about why there were fragmenting guardians in a relentless wave, and I must have got confused between which strange guardian case I was mantis-ing)

BadgerBadger

Apr 3, 2022 12:30 pm

manager   ~0065693

These guardians are set to stay in multi-phase for another 5 minutes, so the game is working correctly at this point. The question of how they got a 5+ minute exile to multiphase is unknown though, and that's the interesting question. Do you have a save from shortly before they got into that state? Could you reproduce this?

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 3, 2022 12:56 pm

reporter   ~0065695

Last edited: Apr 3, 2022 12:58 pm

Unfortunately not that shortly before. The nearest save I have is 15 minutes before (Ironically it's the Strange Guardians save I uploaded first by mistake). I was able to locate what might be the guardians in question in that save (Same type and matching primary keys, but it might be that the primary keys had already been recycled and both happened to land on the same guardian type, I don't know what the game's recycling rate is. Seems *unlikely*, but possible.)
They're initially flagged as border aggro against me, then when a wormhole closes they change their mind and go fight the architrave. But with me keeping an eye on them, they just die there. Is there a way in the release version to see how long a vessel is flagged to stay in multiphase for?

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 6, 2022 1:29 pm

reporter   ~0065816

Last edited: Apr 6, 2022 1:29 pm

I have more information. First, I have two saves. From "quick", if you send one or two of the Spire battleship flagships against the architrave whose space they're raiding, and just keep attacking till they run into the architrave's shiny new golems, they should be crippled... and phased. Phased for a significant time. You can see this result in "Phased Battleship" (On Kyosuke). That's the factual part.

Now for some conjecture: This might be related to them being crippled, but I don't think so. I think it's the same thing that multiphased the guardians:
I think it's related to the nature of the weapons that the phased architrave ships have. Most normal architrave ships, their phasing weapons only work in realspace. So things in multiphase don't have more phasing stacks applied. The one exception the architrave had access to before the latest patch being the bustuarius. I think those guardians earlier were part of a force that managed to kill a phased castra and release the 3xbustuarius, got hit a lot of times at long range, accumulated a large stack of phasing time with no cap, with their fortified property being what let them get lucky and escape again. So the *bug* is that the multiphase time is being added, not set, with each shot, perhaps?

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 6, 2022 1:30 pm

reporter   ~0065817

quick.save (533,310 bytes)

Lord Of Nothing

Apr 6, 2022 2:03 pm

reporter   ~0065821

Updated with a version of the save that doesn't use mods, sorry, I didn't realise those were still on after I looked at someone else's save.
Phased Battleship.save (499,878 bytes)

Lord Of Nothing

Aug 7, 2022 5:55 pm

reporter   ~0067133

I can confirm this is fixed by 5.504.

BadgerBadger

Aug 7, 2022 5:58 pm

manager   ~0067134

Fixed

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Mar 28, 2022 10:25 am Lord Of Nothing New Issue
Mar 28, 2022 10:25 am Lord Of Nothing File Added: Troia strange guardians.save
Mar 28, 2022 10:37 am Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065610
Mar 28, 2022 11:32 am Lord Of Nothing Summary Mysteriously long Mutliphase on some AI guardians. => Mysteriously long Multiphase on some AI guardians.
Mar 28, 2022 11:32 am Lord Of Nothing Description Updated
Mar 28, 2022 11:33 am Lord Of Nothing Description Updated
Apr 2, 2022 3:31 pm BadgerBadger Assigned To => BadgerBadger
Apr 2, 2022 3:31 pm BadgerBadger Status new => closed
Apr 2, 2022 3:31 pm BadgerBadger Resolution open => unable to reproduce
Apr 2, 2022 3:31 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0065679
Apr 2, 2022 7:39 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065684
Apr 2, 2022 7:39 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: Permenant Multiphase.save
Apr 2, 2022 7:40 pm Lord Of Nothing Status closed => feedback
Apr 2, 2022 7:40 pm Lord Of Nothing Resolution unable to reproduce => reopened
Apr 2, 2022 7:40 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065685
Apr 2, 2022 7:46 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065687
Apr 2, 2022 7:46 pm Lord Of Nothing Status feedback => assigned
Apr 3, 2022 12:30 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0065693
Apr 3, 2022 12:30 pm BadgerBadger Assigned To BadgerBadger =>
Apr 3, 2022 12:30 pm BadgerBadger Status assigned => requires feedback
Apr 3, 2022 12:56 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065695
Apr 3, 2022 12:58 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Edited: 0065695
Apr 6, 2022 1:29 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065816
Apr 6, 2022 1:29 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Edited: 0065816
Apr 6, 2022 1:30 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065817
Apr 6, 2022 1:30 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: quick.save
Apr 6, 2022 1:30 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: Phased Battleship.save
Apr 6, 2022 1:33 pm Lord Of Nothing Status requires feedback => new
Apr 6, 2022 2:02 pm Lord Of Nothing File Deleted: Phased Battleship.save
Apr 6, 2022 2:03 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0065821
Apr 6, 2022 2:03 pm Lord Of Nothing File Added: Phased Battleship.save
Aug 7, 2022 5:54 pm Lord Of Nothing Resolution reopened => open
Aug 7, 2022 5:54 pm Lord Of Nothing Fixed in Version => 5.504 Multiplayer Bug Smiting Part 2
Aug 7, 2022 5:55 pm Lord Of Nothing Note Added: 0067133
Aug 7, 2022 5:58 pm BadgerBadger Assigned To => BadgerBadger
Aug 7, 2022 5:58 pm BadgerBadger Status new => resolved
Aug 7, 2022 5:58 pm BadgerBadger Resolution open => fixed
Aug 7, 2022 5:58 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0067134