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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0027063AI War 2Balance IssueApr 21, 2022 9:18 pm
ReporterStrategic Sage Assigned ToBadgerBadger  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version4.025 Lightning Conduction 
Fixed in Version4.995 DLC3 Release Candidate 1 
Summary0027063: Fusion weapons bypassing bubble shields
DescriptionPer a discussion on discord, it was said this shouldn't happen and is a bug. I'm not sure why they wouldn't bypass bubble forcefields, but I guess that's a choice for balancing people.

Mirages in the attached save attacking the Daring system. They could care less about the bubble forcefield.

 
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Strategic Sage

Apr 21, 2022 2:23 pm

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BubbleFusion.save (321,810 bytes)

BadgerBadger

Apr 21, 2022 2:34 pm

manager   ~0066223

Last edited: Apr 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Why is this considered a bug? It sounds like reasonable behaviour to me. Fusion damage that bypasses regular shields to hit the hull seems like it should have a similar effect for bubble shields

ptarth

Apr 21, 2022 4:39 pm

reporter   ~0066227

In retrospect I think it was due to a misunderstanding in a discussion based upon how damage moves through bubble forcefields and regular forcefields. I believe it was thought that the Mirages were hitting a unit under the forcefield, but the forcefield generator (which wasn't targeted) was taking damage. In this case I believe the Mirages were targeting the forcefield generator and the forcefield generator was taking hull damage as the targeted unit.

Incorrect understanding: Mirage shoots Bomber under ForceField Frigate Bubble, but the Frigate takes hull damage (probably isn't what is observed.)
Correct understanding: Mirage shoots ForceField Frigate and Frigate takes hull damage.

BadgerBadger

Apr 21, 2022 4:50 pm

manager   ~0066228

Any damage that goes to a unit under a bubble forcefield should go to the forcefield. Fusion damage will apply to the bubble forcefield generator.

So if I'm hitting unit A under a forcefield, all my damage goes to forcefield generator B. Once the forcefield is down, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Dqi3Um0jM

Strategic Sage

Apr 21, 2022 5:26 pm

reporter   ~0066230

CRCGamer and Daniexpert both said it was a bug. The tooltip on the fusion weapon says 'bypassing any personal shield (NOT bubble forcefields)'

BadgerBadger

Apr 21, 2022 5:28 pm

manager   ~0066231

Hmm. Well, maybe we should modify the tooltip. Is there a good reason why bubble forcefields should be immune to fusion?

BadgerBadger

Apr 21, 2022 9:18 pm

manager   ~0066237

Fix a bug where bubble shields from modules were not immune to fusion's shield bypass

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 21, 2022 2:23 pm Strategic Sage New Issue
Apr 21, 2022 2:23 pm Strategic Sage File Added: BubbleFusion.save
Apr 21, 2022 2:34 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0066223
Apr 21, 2022 4:26 pm BadgerBadger Note Edited: 0066223
Apr 21, 2022 4:39 pm ptarth Note Added: 0066227
Apr 21, 2022 4:50 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0066228
Apr 21, 2022 4:50 pm BadgerBadger Assigned To => BadgerBadger
Apr 21, 2022 4:50 pm BadgerBadger Status new => closed
Apr 21, 2022 4:50 pm BadgerBadger Resolution open => no change required
Apr 21, 2022 5:26 pm Strategic Sage Note Added: 0066230
Apr 21, 2022 5:28 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0066231
Apr 21, 2022 9:18 pm BadgerBadger Status closed => resolved
Apr 21, 2022 9:18 pm BadgerBadger Resolution no change required => fixed
Apr 21, 2022 9:18 pm BadgerBadger Fixed in Version => 4.995 DLC3 Release Candidate 1
Apr 21, 2022 9:18 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0066237