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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0010074 | Valley 2 | Bug - Room Issues | Dec 20, 2012 3:15 pm | Jan 3, 2013 5:04 pm | |
| Reporter | khadgar | Assigned To | tigersfan | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 0.706 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 0.708 | ||||
| Summary | 0010074: Bad Slices | ||||
| Description | All the slices listed below needed 1 extra space on the top or bottom to prevent impossible slice combinations. InteriorVerticalMidsection / ju_IVM_Ribs CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-1 CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-2 CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-4 CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-5 CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-6 CavernVerticalDoorsCenter / cmp-CaveDoorCenter-7 Fix attached | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Internal Weight | Discussion Only | ||||
| has duplicate | 0010152 | closed | Impassable area in level-up windmill |
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ju_IVM_Ribs.txt (238 bytes)
F@,,,,,,,,,F F,,,,,,,$,,F FF,,,,FFFFFF F,,,,,,,,,,F F,,,,,,,$,,F FFF,,,,FFFFF F,,,,,,,,,,F F,,,,,,,,,,F FFFF,,,,FFFF F,,,,,,,,,,F F,$,,,,,,,,F FFFFF,,,,FFF F,,,,,,,,,,F F,,,$,,,,,,F FFF,FF,,,,FF F,,,,,,,,,,F F@,,,,,,,,,F |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-1.txt (158 bytes)
FF@,,,,,,,,,,,,,FF FF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,FF FFF,,,,,!,,,,,,FFF FFF,,,,,,,,,,,,FFF FF,,,,FF,,,,,,,FFF FF,,,,,F,,,0,,,FFF FF,,!,,,,,FFFF,FFF FFF@,,,,,,,,,FFFFF |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-2.txt (158 bytes)
FF@,,,,,,,,,,,,,FF FF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,FF FFF,,,,,,,,,,,,FFF FFF,,,,,,,#,,,,FFF FF,,,,FF,,,,,,,FFF FF,,,,,F,,,0,,,FFF FF,,,,,,,,FFFF,FFF FFF@,,,,,,,,,FFFFF |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-4.txt (158 bytes)
F@,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFF F,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFFF FFFF,,,,FF,,,FF,FF FFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFF,,,,,#,,,,,F FFFFFFF,,,,,,,0,,F FFFFFFFF@,,,,FFFFF |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-5.txt (158 bytes)
F@,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFF F,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFFF FFFF,,,,FF,,,FF,FF FFFFF,!,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFFF,,,!,,,0,,F FFFFFFFF@,,,,FFFFF |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-6.txt (158 bytes)
F@,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFF F,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFFF FFFF,,M,FF,,,FF,FF FFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFF,,,,,o,,,,,,F FFFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFFF,,,,M,,0,,F FFFFFFFF@,,,,FFFFF |
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cmp-CaveDoorCenter-7.txt (158 bytes)
F@,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFF F,,,,,,,FFFFFFFFFF FFFF,,,,FF,,,FF,FF FFFFF,L,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFF,,,,,,,,,,,F FFFFFFF,,,,,,,0%,F FFFFFFFF@,,,,FFFFF |
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As I explore more, I realize a potential issue with a very large set of vertical slices when combined with other slices. When the slice file has the guide @ directly above (at the top) or directly below (at the bottom) a solid block, it can potentially cause a blockage. I have attached my explanation for why this is as a text file if anyone is interested, because the comment boxes use a variable-width font which can't display my little slice drawings. Press [show content] on the file 'slice explination.txt' above to read it. I also will offer to fix all the slices where this problem could occur for you if you like. |
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slice explaination.txt (1,293 bytes)
In the case of a slice that looks like this
FFFF@,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
FFFF,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
This slice could correctly fit with a slice that looked like this
F@,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
To look like this (added second slice on the top and bottom of the first slice):
F@,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
FFFF@,,,FFFF
F,,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
FFFF,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,FFF,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F
But it would not work if the second slice looked like this:
F@,,F
F,,,F
F,F,F
F,,,F
@,,,F
Which would produce the following:
F@,,F
F,,,F
F,F,F
F,,,F
@,,,F
FFFF@,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
FFFF,,,,F
F@,,,,,,F <----- here is a blocked passageway
F@,,FFFFF
F,,,F
F,F,F
F,,,F
@,,,F
As you can see, there is a 1-block high passage on two otherwise functional slices. To avoid this, ensure that the slice guide marker has 1 block clearance of open terrain below or above in all vertical segments.
In the above example, changing the first slice to this will fix the issue:
FFFF@,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F
FFFF,,,,F
F,,,,,,,F <---- added this extra space, slice guide isn't vertically crowded
F@,,,,,,F |
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I ran into this issue while trying to clear a Skelebot junkyard. I'm unsure which slices it affects. If there's an easy way to tell, I could look it up. Alternatively, I can upload my world to this bug report. |
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This is good stuff. Thanks. Once I get around to catching up from the break and fixing slices, this will be a really easy fix, thanks to your sleuthing. :) |
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Hmmm, actually, now I'm kind of confused. I fixed the "Ribs" one, but, I'm not seeing anything wrong with the others. It's entirely possible I'm missing something, could you be more specific about say CaveDoorCenter5? That slice looks fine to me. |
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I think that the cavedoorcenter slices I edited had the top @ guide without 1 space of clearance below. Without 1 space of clearance, it could connect with another slice that has 0 spaces of clearance on the bottom @ guide, potentially forming a 1-high passageway where it isn't supposed to be. At least, I think this is the case, I don't have the original slices anymore, I replaced them with the ones in this report. |
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Ok, I understand now. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Dec 20, 2012 3:15 pm | khadgar | New Issue | |
| Dec 20, 2012 3:15 pm | khadgar | File Added: ju_IVM_Ribs.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:34 am | khadgar | Summary | Bad Slice => Bad Slices |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:34 am | khadgar | Description Updated | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:35 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-1.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:35 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-2.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:35 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-4.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:35 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-5.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:36 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-6.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 3:36 am | khadgar | File Added: cmp-CaveDoorCenter-7.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:10 am | khadgar | Note Added: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:11 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:11 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:11 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:12 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:12 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:13 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:13 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:14 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:14 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:16 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:17 am | khadgar | File Added: slice explaination.txt | |
| Dec 21, 2012 4:18 am | khadgar | Note Edited: 0029223 | |
| Dec 26, 2012 10:20 pm | zaaq | Note Added: 0029315 | |
| Dec 26, 2012 10:21 pm | zaaq | Note Edited: 0029315 | |
| Dec 26, 2012 11:29 pm | zaaq | Relationship added | related to 0010152 |
| Dec 31, 2012 8:00 am | tigersfan | Internal Weight | => Feature Suggestion |
| Dec 31, 2012 8:00 am | tigersfan | Assigned To | => tigersfan |
| Dec 31, 2012 8:00 am | tigersfan | Status | new => assigned |
| Dec 31, 2012 8:01 am | tigersfan | Note Added: 0029399 | |
| Jan 2, 2013 8:34 am | tigersfan | Relationship replaced | has duplicate 0010152 |
| Jan 2, 2013 1:06 pm | tigersfan | Note Added: 0029438 | |
| Jan 2, 2013 1:06 pm | tigersfan | Internal Weight | Feature Suggestion => Discussion Only |
| Jan 2, 2013 1:06 pm | tigersfan | Status | assigned => feedback |
| Jan 3, 2013 2:59 pm | khadgar | Note Added: 0029482 | |
| Jan 3, 2013 2:59 pm | khadgar | Status | feedback => assigned |
| Jan 3, 2013 5:04 pm | tigersfan | Note Added: 0029498 | |
| Jan 3, 2013 5:04 pm | tigersfan | Status | assigned => resolved |
| Jan 3, 2013 5:04 pm | tigersfan | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Jan 3, 2013 5:04 pm | tigersfan | Fixed in Version | => 0.708 |
