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0011029AI War 1 / ClassicSuggestion - Unit Abilities And BehaviorsApr 5, 2013 11:19 am
Reporterjenya Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version6.015 
Summary0011029: why Lightning Turret has an artillery bonus of 4
DescriptionHi,

Why Lightning Turret has a bonus of 4 against artillery? Missile frigates are immune (as shown by reference tool), the only other artillery fleet ship that I know of is a Grenade Launcher.
Looks like a very fringe bonus (against a single fleet ship).
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motai

Mar 31, 2013 12:42 am

reporter   ~0031431

missile ships are not immune to lightning turrets. unless there is something crossed in the code because its similar to area effect attacks. the flak uses area effect damage and so only main targets are hit. the lightning actually strike 1 ship and up to 200 near it but as far as i know not thru the area effect code. in addition even if it uses the area effect code it would work like flak and the main shot would hit but the links would hit other things.

correct me if i am wrong but, immunity to area effect attacks is not immunity to the ammo type but it is immunity to the side effects of the main shot.

jenya

Mar 31, 2013 6:49 am

reporter   ~0031432

Hi,

In game reference tool shows (when comparing missile frigate versus turrets) that lightning turret does zero damage to frigate (opponent attacking hull type multiplier is zero). Meanwhile flak turret does non-zero damage (direct shot damage).

TechSY730

Mar 31, 2013 8:32 pm

reporter   ~0031435

Yes, only those AOE attacks that have a "canister" can deal damage to AOE immune units if they directly target that unit. Units without any sort of "canister" (like warheads, electric shuttles, and lightning turrets), and just have their damage hitbox centered on the firing unit itself don't get this exception; they are fully unable to hit AOE immune stuff.

Chthonic One

Apr 1, 2013 2:33 am

reporter   ~0031436

Lightning warheads targeted on a missile frigate do 0 damage to the missile frigate. I would think it'd be the same for lightning and flak turrets.

KDR_11k

Apr 5, 2013 11:19 am

reporter   ~0031464

Probably a legacy thing. Lightning used to kill a frigate of equal level in 2-3 shots, the AOE immunity on Frigs was probably added for that reason. The multiplier was probably added during the conversion to hull types because of the bonuses the unit still had listed internally.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Mar 30, 2013 7:14 am jenya New Issue
Mar 31, 2013 12:42 am motai Note Added: 0031431
Mar 31, 2013 6:49 am jenya Note Added: 0031432
Mar 31, 2013 8:32 pm TechSY730 Note Added: 0031435
Apr 1, 2013 2:33 am Chthonic One Note Added: 0031436
Apr 5, 2013 11:19 am KDR_11k Note Added: 0031464