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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0011510Skyward CollapseGameplay IssueMay 16, 2013 6:23 pm
ReporterAlgaeNymph Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version.815 
Fixed in Version.816 
Summary0011510: Tutorial doesn't give advice on balancing forces
DescriptionWith the new tutorial forcing me to give the Norse a light elf at the start I either have to 1) give the Greeks a monster (which kills the elf and overwhelms the Norse) or 2) give them nothing (and the light elf pounds on their buildings and new units). If there's some way to regain balance then I'd like the tutorial to let me know.
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tigersfan

May 16, 2013 10:17 am

reporter   ~0032280

Well, the first pop-up for the Greek side says you should place a mythological unit there to balance things up. What else do you recommend?

Mick

May 16, 2013 11:06 am

reporter   ~0032283

Telling new players in the tutorial to create such unbalancing units during the setup phase just seems like such bad advice to me.

It places players in the mindset of "build these expensive units while you can easily!" However, expensive mythological units aren't really needed at that stage of the game.

tigersfan

May 16, 2013 11:33 am

reporter   ~0032284

I see your point, but the idea behind doing that was because we got feedback the first time that the tutorial didn't do a good enough job showing players how to place that stuff in the first place. So, short of having another pop-up later in the game, I'm not sure how to balance those two ideas.,,

Chris_McElligottPark

May 16, 2013 12:58 pm

administrator   ~0032300

Thanks!

* Improved the tutorial with the following text:
** On the Light-Elf-placement-step:
*** Note! It's actually a super bad idea to place a mythological unit this early in the game, but we're going to make you do it anyway, just so you see how it works. Usually you would place these in reaction to some imbalance in the battles. Placing them when there isn't already an imbalance will cause an imbalance!
** On the "Spend All 9 Of The Blue Faction's Action Points" step:
** As one of your actions, you probably want to place a mythological creature on the greek side -- otherwise that light elf will make quite a mess. Normally, mythological units are quite expensive, so definitely take advantage of the setup round to counter that elf.
** Tip: don't use Cerberus to counter the elf, because he doesn't move and thus she can go right around him. He's good at guarding bottlenecks, but you don't have one at the moment. Right now you just need something mobile to counter that Light Elf that is currently unbalancing the two factions.

windgen

May 16, 2013 6:23 pm

reporter   ~0032307

If you're not supposed to use Cerberus, new players will only have one unit, Chimera, unlocked to counter the elf.

I used the Chimera in the tutorial and it one-shotted the light elf, then started attacking red buildings. It also kept one-shotting red's regular military, so I had Blue do nothing for many turns and built two more town centers and a bunch of resource buildings as Red until I could save up for a Giant, which finally killed it.

This suggests to me that the mythological creature suggestions/requirements in the tutorial may need to be adjusted.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 16, 2013 9:27 am AlgaeNymph New Issue
May 16, 2013 10:17 am tigersfan Note Added: 0032280
May 16, 2013 10:17 am tigersfan Internal Weight => New
May 16, 2013 10:17 am tigersfan Status new => feedback
May 16, 2013 11:06 am Mick Note Added: 0032283
May 16, 2013 11:33 am tigersfan Note Added: 0032284
May 16, 2013 12:58 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0032300
May 16, 2013 12:58 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status feedback => resolved
May 16, 2013 12:58 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => .816
May 16, 2013 12:58 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
May 16, 2013 12:58 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
May 16, 2013 6:23 pm windgen Note Added: 0032307
Apr 14, 2014 9:28 am Chris_McElligottPark Category Gameplay - General Complaint => Gameplay Issue