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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0001262 | AI War 1 / Classic | GUI | Nov 11, 2010 1:10 am | Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | |
| Reporter | Nypyren | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 4.021 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 4.061 | ||||
| Summary | 0001262: Inconsistencies in ship names | ||||
| Description | There appear to be (at least) three different names for a ship: Full name (used on the large ship tooltips) Sort/Wave name (used for wave warning info and as the sort key for F1/Planet summary) Abbreviation (used on game setup map, perhaps elsewhere) This makes things a bit confusing to players who are still familiarizing themselves with the game: 1. Seeing "30 Bombards" for the wave warning info instead of "Zenith Bombardment Ships" 2. "Shield Bearer" shows up as "FF Bearer" on setup map. 3. Ships in the F1/Planet summary list that are sorted by their wave-name rather than their displayed name when you mouse-over them: Name (Sort/Wave) [Abbrev] Zenith AutoBomb (AutoBomb) [Z AutoBomb] Zenith Bombardment Ship (Bombard) [Z Bombardment] Heavy Bomber (Bomber) Neinzul Youngling Commando (Commando) [Yng Commando] Vorticular Cutlass (Cutlass) Standard Fighter (Fighter) Missile Frigate (Frigate) Tachyon MicroFighter (MicroFighter) Neinzul Youngling Nanoswarm (Nanoswarm) [Yng Nanoswarm] Space Plane (Plane) Shield Bearer (Shield Bearer) [FF Bearer] Electric Shuttle (Shuttle) [Electric Shuttle] Space Tank (Tank) Neinzul Youngling Tiger (Tiger) [Yng Tiger] Neinzul Youngling Vulture (Vulture) [Yng Vulture] Neinzul Youngling Weasel (Weasel) [Yng Weasel] (Inconsistently, the rest of the Zenith ships are properly sorted in the Z's.) | ||||
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| has duplicate | 0000952 | resolved | Chris_McElligottPark | Shield Bearer has name of FF Bearer on 'New Campaign' screen |
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I kinda get what you're saying, but the FF Bearer is the only one that really makes sense to me. I mean, everyone is going to know that cutlass= vorticular cutlass, and plane= space plane, etc. |
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Giegue his issue is that without prior familiarity with these names, some of them could cause confusion which I completely agree with. Making the game more accessible to new players is always a good thing. |
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I have to agree on this. While I pretty much know the ships by now, it's sometimes odd to see abbreviations in wave warnings and the like. Also, on a slightly related note, the word 'Zenith' in front of the ship names seems to serve no other purpose than noting that it's an expansion unit, which is kind of odd. It's confusing to read 'Z this' and 'Z that', when they could just as well go without the Z to begin with. I'd be happy, and a bit more content with just calling 'em Bombardments, Autobombs, Beam Frigates, etc. Plus the expansion ships would blend in with the other ships better if their names didn't stand out so well from the originals. The affiliation with an expansion could be noted somewhere else. Maybe just a 'Zenith ship.' in the tooltip or something. Note: I don't have CoN or LotS yet, so I don't know how those ships are named, but hopefully not 'N this' and 'S that' ;p In that case the originals better be renamed to 'A this' or 'O that' or 'V this' as well, to signify AI War, Original or Vanilla. ;) Nitpickery to the max! |
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A lot of this stuff isn't going to change, because for clarity and flavor reasons we have a full name to units, which simply must be abbreviated in many parts of the interface to keep the interface small. To a few specific points: 1. The shield bearers still being called FF Bearer in the abbreviation isn't intended. 2. Probably removing the Z in front of some of them would be a thing to do, that would be more consistent with CoN and such. 3. The actual "Zenith" in the name of those ships denotes their origin, and the fact that they are made out of organic materials and thus were weak to the acid sprayer. There are plenty of things in the base game with Zenith, Neinzul, or Spire in the name, for example -- it's simply grouping those alien ships by where they came from (which also speaks somewhat to their types of powers and definitely their visual styling), not by expansion. Though each expansion, so far, has focused on a single race that won't always be the case. |
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Just removing the 'Z' abbreviation would make me happy. It's just such a striking difference in the midst of all the other ship names. When using a full name though, I don't so much mind the 'Zenith' part. It's much clearer than a 'Z', and overall looks better. Didn't really realize the Zenith had similar weaknesses either, so it's actually somewhat informative. :) I guess I was stretching it there with that feedback. Sorry about that. ;p However, maybe reconsidering some of the abbreviations would be in order though. Like Bombardment/Bombard. Bombardment seems to be 11 characters long word, and Microfighter is 12, so clearly 'Bombardment' would be usable just fine, and wouldn't either take much more space character or width -wise. Seems like Bombard is an abbreviation that isn't needed in this case, IMO. It's also easy to mistake Bombards for Bombers at a really quick glance, though admittedly I can't recall that happening recently. |
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There's only so much one can do in terms of consistency, because of the need to abbreviate on the short names in particular, but there was definite room for improvement. I've gone through them all now, and have made the following changes (note that I left or added the Yng prefix, as I think that's super relevant given their lifespan concerns): * Various "short name" changes have been made for consistency: ** Z Elec Bomber is now Electric Bomber. ** Frigate is now Missile Frigate. ** MicroFight is now MicroFighter. ** Shuttle is now Elec Shuttle. ** Infil is now Infiltrator. ** Laser is now Laser Gat. ** Autocan is now Autocannon. ** Deflect is now Deflector. ** Grenade is now Grenade Launch. ** Z Mirror is now Mirror. ** Z Paralyzer is now Paralyzer. ** Z Beam Frigate is now Beam Frigate. ** Z Chameleon is now Chameleon. ** Z Polarizer is now Polarizer. ** Z Shredder is now Viral Shredder. ** Commando is now Yng Commando. ** Tiger is now Yng Tiger. ** Vulture is now Yng Vulture. ** Weasel is now Yng Weasel. ** Nanoswarm is now Yng Nanoswarm. ** S Armor Rotter is now Armor Rotter. ** S Blade Spawner is now Blade Spawner. ** S Gravity Drain is now Gravity Drain. ** S Gravity Ripper is now Gravity Ripper. ** S Maw is now Maw. ** S Mini Ram is now Mini Ram. ** S Stealth Battleship is now Stealth Battleship. ** S Teleporting Leech is now Teleporting Leech. ** S Tractor Platform is now Tractor Platform. ** Thanks to Nypyren for suggesting. * Various "wave name" changes have been made for consistency: ** Frigates are now Missile Frigates. ** Tanks are now Space Tanks. ** Cutlasses are now Vorticular Cutlasses. ** Spiders are now Spider Bots. ** Autocannons are now Autocannon Minipods. ** Planes are now Space Planes. ** EtherJets are now EtherJet Tractors. ** Force Field Bearers are now Shield Bearers. ** Armors are now Armor Ships. ** Anti-Armors are now Anti-Armor Ships. ** Bombards are now Zenith Bombards. ** AutoBombs are now Zenith AutoBombs. ** Commandos are now Neinzul Youngling Commandos. ** Tigers are now Neinzul Youngling Tigers. ** Vultures are now Neinzul Youngling Vultures. ** Weasels are now Neinzul Youngling Weasels. ** Nanoswarms are now Neinzul Youngling Nanoswarms. ** Thanks to Nypyren for suggesting. * Various "full name" changes have been made for consistency: ** Heavy Bombers are now Bombers. ** Thanks to Nypyren for suggesting. * Various "ship type name" changes have been made for consistency/clarity: ** Z Elec Bomber is now Elec Bomber. ** Z Mirror is now Mirror. ** Z Paralyzer is now Paralyzer. ** Z Beam Frigate is now Beam Frigate. ** Z Chameleon is now Chameleon. ** Z Polarizer is now Polarizer. ** Z Shredder is now Shredder. ** Z AutoBomb is now AutoBomb. ** Z Bombardment is now Bombard. ** Spire Armor Rotter is now Armor Rotter. ** Spire Blade Spawner is now Blade Spawner. ** Spire Gravity Drain is now Gravity Drain. ** Spire Gravity Ripper is now Gravity Ripper. ** Spire Stealth Battleship is now Stealth Battleship. ** Spire Teleporting Leech is now Teleporting Leech. ** Spire Tractor Platform is now Tractor Platform. ** Spire Maw is now Maw. ** Spire Mini Ram is now Mini Ram. ** These changes also affecet the sort order of the ship icons in the planetary summary. ** Thanks to Nypyren for suggesting. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Nov 11, 2010 1:10 am | Nypyren | New Issue | |
| Nov 11, 2010 2:57 am | Giegue | Note Added: 0003224 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 5:58 am | Malibu Stacey | Relationship added | has duplicate 0000952 |
| Nov 11, 2010 6:33 am | Malibu Stacey | Note Added: 0003228 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 9:23 am | HitmanN | Note Added: 0003235 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 10:21 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0003239 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 11:53 am | HitmanN | Note Added: 0003244 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 11:54 am | HitmanN | Note Edited: 0003244 | |
| Nov 11, 2010 11:55 am | HitmanN | Note Edited: 0003244 | |
| Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0007502 | |
| Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | new => resolved |
| Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Fixed in Version | => 4.061 |
| Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Jan 4, 2011 11:12 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| Apr 14, 2014 9:28 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Category | Bug - UI => GUI |
