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0014331The Last FederationSuggestionApr 29, 2014 10:43 am
ReporterAzurian Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version1.001 (Bugfixes, Large Screen Resolution Support) 
Summary0014331: (indarien) Ambiguity Paralysis
DescriptionNot really sure if this is the best thread for this, but my biggest impediments to being fantastically enthralled with this game are pretty simple, but evidently they are not built into the game or the tooltips anywhere.

1) Getting Tech from Friendly races -> It would be really nice if I could just buy Techs from a friendly race.
i.e. - We can research techs together
i.e. - I can get them to share techs with other races (sometimes detrimentally to themselves, there should be a check so that they don't gift technologies to races they don't like)
i.e. - I can steal Techs from people
- But I cannot go to the Acutians, Andors, Skylaxians, etc. and say, "Hey, you have this cool tech that I would like, I want to buy it from you for X Credits/Voting Proxies/Influence, etc."

2) Game Timing -> I cannot find anything that indicates how long (in game time) that a game should last. This seriously impacts my willingness to do long term contracts.
For instance - why would I ever want to spend 10 months building influence at a rate of 0.1 per month? Is the game so long (in game time) that I can twiddle my thumbs for that length of time for such a small gain?
Why would I want to spend 60 months researching a tech with a race? Granted we both get a tech, but if I burn 5 years of game time, would the Thoraxians (or whatever similar race in a specific game) have conquered the rest of the galaxy in that time?
So really, do I have 100s of years to build a Federation, or do I need to be engaged in a manic-state of combat at all times?

Unlike AI War, Bionic Dues, and Skyward Collapse where there is a nicely defined "I do this and get X, but the <other guys> get Y" mechanic, that seems to be missing from Last Federation. Since I am not sure if a game will take 10 years or 100 years...I find myself unwilling to do anything that takes more than 5 months of game time, and then I wonder if there are many other things I could be doing that is a better use of my "in-game-time."

The "Computer Advisor" throws out some suggestions, which are helpful, but they don't tell me - "Hey, it's okay to go spend 10 years getting the Andors to think you are the greatest being in the galaxy and bring them into the Federation".

Seriously - aside from that this game is awesome and I like playing it, but I think I'm suffering from "ambiguity paralysis" at this point.
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Azurian

Apr 21, 2014 4:57 pm

reporter   ~0036378

I agree with indarien and have gotten Ambiguity Paralysis myself with both the game timing and the vagueness of the Computer Advisor, there should be a box somewhere u can click to get a general strategy guide of what to do. I think what be even more beneficial is to open up the Last Federation wiki to be edited by the community so in the next expansion pack u can have an encyclopedia inside the game or a title screen button that links to the wiki.

It would also be beneficial to have a Strategy and Technical Support subforum under the Last Federation forum.

I have always wondered why the computer advisor doesn't have a name.

Andrew Savinykh

Apr 21, 2014 5:35 pm

reporter   ~0036381

Last edited: Apr 21, 2014 5:35 pm

@Azurian I think everyone who wants to contribute to the wiki can - you just need to send a PM to one of the Arcen staff and ask for a login. But yeah, many points do resonate.

Chris_McElligottPark

Apr 21, 2014 8:34 pm

administrator   ~0036391

* Now you can research techs with races even when they already know it. This is something we viewed as superior to being able to buy it from them, as determining credit worths of them would be extremely tricky and would really penalize you in the late game. So, instead:
** If a race already knows a tech but you do not, the time to research it with them is thirded.
** However, you gain no credits or influence with them for taking this action, unlike if they are learning it too.

Sounds

Apr 29, 2014 10:43 am

reporter   ~0036961

... ** If a race already knows a tech but you do not, the time to research it with them is thirded.
** However, you gain no credits or influence with them for taking this action, unlike if they are learning it too....


This works for me.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 21, 2014 4:47 pm Azurian New Issue
Apr 21, 2014 4:57 pm Azurian Note Added: 0036378
Apr 21, 2014 5:35 pm Andrew Savinykh Note Added: 0036381
Apr 21, 2014 5:35 pm Andrew Savinykh Note Edited: 0036381
Apr 21, 2014 8:34 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0036391
Apr 29, 2014 10:43 am Sounds Note Added: 0036961