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0015109The Last FederationSuggestionMay 12, 2014 8:14 pm
ReporterRagwortshire Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version1.016 (Finish Him!) 
Summary0015109: Allow races to spontaneously join the Federation
DescriptionThis suggestion is intended to address the following:
 - The player strategically delaying a race's entry to the Federation until he/she can get all remaining races in, thus completely bypassing any potential negative consequences (e.g. TOS, alliances forming against the Fed, fear of Thoraxians). This IMO makes the game less interesting.
 - Less importantly, the player having met all the prerequisites for getting a race into the Federation but not having enough Credit and being forced to farm for a while.

Suggetion: Whenever the Federation already exists and the conditions (apart from Credit/Leverage/Voting Proxies) for a certain race to join have been fulfilled for a certain length of time, that race has a small chance each month of joining the Federation spontaneously. This can either accelerate the player's progress, or throw a spanner in the works depending on the situation!

Also, I believe this would improve immersion by reinforcing the fact that the player is not "in charge" of the Federation, despite being responsible for its inception.
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topper

May 12, 2014 1:29 pm

reporter   ~0037898

This might be better as a quest option, but with potentially dire penalties if you do not take the quest to allow the new race.

timfortress

May 12, 2014 2:14 pm

reporter   ~0037901

So people will just fast forward and wait that" small chance each month of joining the Federation", seems not that fun as well

Ragwortshire

May 12, 2014 2:35 pm

reporter   ~0037907

A quest would also be a nice way of doing it IMO. :)

@timfortress: Is it worse than going on a dispatch mission and fast-forwarding to get the Credits? The chance could easily be set so that both would take a similar amount of time. And while you're fast-forwarding things may go badly wrong elsewhere...

topper

May 12, 2014 2:39 pm

reporter   ~0037908

I think it could work as a niche event or quest that only occurs in very rare specific circumstances:
-only happens at most 1 time per game
-cannot be used to get the final remaining non-federation race into the fed
-causes attitude loss with current federation members towards hydral due to "out of touch with federation needs"?

Drak

May 12, 2014 8:02 pm

reporter   ~0037933

Last edited: May 12, 2014 8:04 pm

I like the idea of the race putting up a "Please let us join" mission. The mission could involve breaking through AFA forces to deliever a diplomat/federation rep, or destroying an AFA "super base" to clear away opposition to admission to the federation. Since this could be failed (which would also remove the quest), I think it's fine if it can occur repeatedly, as the player would have to wait for the next opportunity and would still have no guarentee of success. Alaso, making it a quest allows the player to ignore the attempt (at an appropriate cost in rep) if they don't want that race joining the federation.

So instead of automatically joing the federation (against the player's will) there's a small chance of the mission popping each month (once time/other prereqs are met).

As for the fast forwarding and wait, that's better than REQUIRING the grind, you now have an option - grind or wait. Also, the fast forward is no guarentee that the race will join, as the un-attended passage of time might make one of the prereqs for the chance pass away before the chance is rolled, at which point you'd have to go fix the problem before fast forwarding again.

As for restricting the last planet, all this does is force the grind on the last planet, and as pointed out above, doesn't really add anything to the game by forcing the grind only for the last planet. Reducung the chance based on number of planets left MAY be interesting (would need to be tested and balanced), and increasing the number of AFA present in the mission as the number of planets remaining decreases (like spy sats and deliever spacefaring) would certainly be appropriate (making getting that last planet a real climatic battle!)

timfortress

May 12, 2014 8:14 pm

reporter   ~0037935

Last edited: May 12, 2014 8:15 pm

This seems cool and faultless(support Drak ideas)

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 12, 2014 10:20 am Ragwortshire New Issue
May 12, 2014 10:24 am Ragwortshire Description Updated
May 12, 2014 1:29 pm topper Note Added: 0037898
May 12, 2014 2:14 pm timfortress Note Added: 0037901
May 12, 2014 2:35 pm Ragwortshire Note Added: 0037907
May 12, 2014 2:39 pm topper Note Added: 0037908
May 12, 2014 8:02 pm Drak Note Added: 0037933
May 12, 2014 8:04 pm Drak Note Edited: 0037933
May 12, 2014 8:14 pm timfortress Note Added: 0037935
May 12, 2014 8:15 pm timfortress Note Edited: 0037935