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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0026984 | AI War 2 | Bug - Gameplay | Apr 15, 2022 7:29 pm | Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm | |
| Reporter | Dragoris | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 4.020 Hotfix | ||||
| Summary | 0026984: Errors when creating games with only NA expansion active | ||||
| Description | I am trying to create a quicksave game, and only have the NA expansion on turned on. When I try to add a faction such as the Neinzul Custodians, I get this error. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| related to | 0027003 | resolved | Chris_McElligottPark | Hot-swapping Mods/Expansions Error |
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Closing and reopening the program seems to resolve the problem. But yeah, if you disable those expansions then start a new game immediately it's very busted |
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Reproduction: Start the program with all 3 expansions enabled. In Settings, disable TSR and ZO. Now try to start a new game from the lobby |
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This resolution did not work for me, as I closed the program twice with no effect. I had to validate my files for AI War 2 to make it stop. |
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Sounds like you had a corrupt download on top of the other issues, if the steam sync fixed it. Nevertheless, this was a great find. Thanks! * Fixed a subtle reflection-based bug that happened with trying to load the external data links after you changed your mod and expansion statuses around. ** The most notable extant example of this was having a necromancer faction selected in the lobby, and then disabling some DLCs but leaving DLC3 on. However, there were a variety of other ways this could be hit, as this was a generalized issue. It was just subtle enough that it was hard to bring out any other fashion. ** The core of this issue is actually a very interesting computer science situation. Essentially, it went like this: *** Class ExternalInfo has a variable CachedExternalType on it, and a Pool that uses "this.CachedExternalType" inside an anonymous method to generate members of the pool. *** After reload of the xml and thus also reset of ExternalInfo, the following things would be true: **** CachedExternalType was not null in the outer method, and in fact was reset just perfectly. **** Inside the anonymous method, it "this.CachedExternalType" would be null, presumably because it had been JIT compiled to point to a specific reference that no longer exists. This is one of those places where the intent of reflection and anonymous methods can get a bit lost. *** Years ago, Keith and I had found the general solution to this is to declare a local working variable copy of the member variable, and have the anonymous method simply refer to the cached local copy. This tends to solve a number of issues, but in general ensures that the anonymous method always has the latest copy of whatever is going on in its specific local context. **** It's actually possible that this is not a reflection issue, but an order of operation threading issue, although I doubt it. Experiments could be run, if we wanted to figure out the exact cause; or we could look at the JIT results. But really, diving that deep serves no particular purpose at this point. The solution is simply to remember to use local cached copies, regardless, and this is a case where I did not. ** Anyhow, this seems to solve the reported problems, and may solve some other unrelated problems after doing an xml reload, as well. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Apr 15, 2022 7:29 pm | Dragoris | New Issue | |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:29 pm | Dragoris | File Added: MapGenError.png | |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:50 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Added: 0066066 | |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm | BadgerBadger | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm | BadgerBadger | Status | new => assigned |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm | BadgerBadger | Note Added: 0066067 | |
| Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm | BadgerBadger | Sticky Issue | No => Yes |
| Apr 15, 2022 8:10 pm | Dragoris | Note Added: 0066068 | |
| Apr 18, 2022 9:43 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Relationship added | related to 0027003 |
| Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | assigned => resolved |
| Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0066138 | |
| Apr 19, 2022 12:06 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Sticky Issue | Yes => No |
