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0002742AI War 1 / ClassicSuggestion - New FeaturesFeb 4, 2011 7:56 pm
ReporterSunshine Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status consideringResolutionopen 
Product Version5.000 
Summary0002742: Free DLC - More Campaigns (Zenith/Neinzul/Other)
DescriptionI figured I'd toss this over here so people can vote on it, but it's an idea from this thread: http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,8178.msg70951.html#msg70951

The suggestion is for campaigns for the Zenith and Neinzul

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Is there any thought of adding optional campaigns for the Zenith or Neinzul in the future? Neinzul could be to reunite the Roaming Enclaves into one hive mind and would be more dynamic/mobile gameplay rather than the static-point gameplay that Fallen Spire has (not sure how this would work), and Zenith Remnant may be something along the lines of opening up an Exogalactic Wormhole by somehow harnessing the various Zenith factions currently existing, and will focus more on providing excess knowledge (seeing as they don't have much of a military force left I guess, but tons of know-how) and maybe some limited ability to produce golems. Maybe for the Zenith it could be a little stranger in that you need to actively protect Zenith Mining Golems from AI responses as part of it, to gather enough resources to construct a large enough power source to open an exogalactic wormhole?"

More complex, but what could also be interesting is campaigns about the interaction of the various major races (Spire, Zenith, Neinzul), because it's really hard to imagine three powerful races such as these not having some dealings and conflicts in the past. Probably not implementable, since the main focus of the game is Human Vs. AI, with some other races thrown in on the side, and not Human dealing with Zenith and Neinzul Conflict.

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TechSY730

Feb 4, 2011 6:04 pm

reporter   ~0010022

Also reposting my comment on that thread.

Maybe also add journal entries for the base game. IMO, it GREATLY improves immersion, and would help me get into the mindset of "defending the last humans". It would make me care.

Note, it doesn't have to be a whole base game campaign, just some feedback from the "characters" when you complete some important objectives, or when important objectives come up, and a cry for help (mirroring the opening text scroll, but told from the point of view of a character) when you start the game.

keith.lamothe

Feb 4, 2011 6:35 pm

administrator   ~0010029

Full campaigns are too big for free DLC, but since the FS campaign seems to have been a decent hit in LotS we'll certainly consider them for future expansions.

It's possible that we might work in some scripted events as part of DLC, I'm thinking about it. Dunno what Chris thinks, but generally he's ok with stuff as long as it doesn't get in the way of folks who don't want it.

It'll be a while though ;)

Sunshine

Feb 4, 2011 6:38 pm

reporter   ~0010030

That's cool, I just wanted to toss some ideas out and say, "Hey, really enjoying this, do some more!" Scripted events are cool too, doesn't necessarily have to be a full campaign. It could be as simple as one of those King of the Hill artifacts someone else was talking about - one shows up randomly in the game, the player and AI fight over it, it gives some kind of bonus and some minor scripted event that advances the position of the player or AI, and then the script is disabled.

Chris_McElligottPark

Feb 4, 2011 6:51 pm

administrator   ~0010032

There's no way this would be free dlc, but it could be part of a future expansion. Those sorts of campaigns are extremely time consuming to create. Fallen spire was almost half the effort of the latest expansion.

TechSY730

Feb 4, 2011 6:57 pm

reporter   ~0010033

Any chance on integrating the Journal at least some into the base game? No new events are needed, just new text for already existing important events.

soMe_RandoM

Feb 4, 2011 7:45 pm

reporter   ~0010034

can/could/do you want to have expansions include scripted events for N & ZR or it have to be entirely new race?

Chris_McElligottPark

Feb 4, 2011 7:56 pm

administrator   ~0010035

We're pretty much done on new races for the moment. The Spire and Zenith have been in the game since before 1.0, but they only had a single unit each in the game. The Neinzul were dreamed up in order to fit with the Children theme that I wanted to have for Child's Play.

At this stage, we have more than enough material to be going on with in terms of races, etc, and so the next expansion will likely contain a mix of stuff from all three, as well as just general human and AI stuff, too (as has been in each of the expansions so far, also).

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In terms of integrating the Journal into the base game: well, we're really not doing features like that unless they hit high on the Vote Tallies. In terms of free DLC, if it doesn't get high on the vote tallies, it probably doesn't happen for the next while. We're working on bugs and balance stuff, and whatever is popularly requested by players that also fits in our time budget and general design goals for the game. Kind of like what we used to do with the community DLC poll last year. Though looks like that is still going, so we might choose from both that and the vote tallies, since folks are interested in both vectors, apparently.

In terms of random general new features that don't have a lot of popular support: we're not in that sort of cycle right now for AI War.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Feb 4, 2011 6:00 pm Sunshine New Issue
Feb 4, 2011 6:00 pm Sunshine Summary Free DLC - More Campaigns (Zenith/Neinzul) => Free DLC - More Campaigns (Zenith/Neinzul/Other)
Feb 4, 2011 6:04 pm TechSY730 Note Added: 0010022
Feb 4, 2011 6:35 pm keith.lamothe Note Added: 0010029
Feb 4, 2011 6:38 pm Sunshine Note Added: 0010030
Feb 4, 2011 6:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0010032
Feb 4, 2011 6:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Feb 4, 2011 6:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => considering
Feb 4, 2011 6:57 pm TechSY730 Note Added: 0010033
Feb 4, 2011 7:45 pm soMe_RandoM Note Added: 0010034
Feb 4, 2011 7:56 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0010035