0017192: Make monsters mobile and scoutable?

ID	Project	Category		Date Submitted	Last Update

0017192	Stars Beyond Reach	Gameplay Idea		Jun 8, 2015 3:40 am	Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm

Reporter	nas1m	Assigned To	Chris_McElligottPark
Status	considering	Resolution	fixed
Product Version	0.876 (Much Sanity Was Added)

Summary	0017192: Make monsters mobile and scoutable?
Description	EDIT: I only just realized that there is a difference between rogues and monsters. I am talking about monsters here! [rogue balance stuff - see related issue...] The fact that rogues come without warning (or can't be seen wandering on the map before coming into attack range - this might actually be cool and a good use for early game sonar) and apparently one-shot every building they encounter, makes them a bit too strong/crippling early-game in my book, especially if more then one decides to show up. TLDR Thinking about this while typing, my proposal would be to have monsters roam the map, have them picked up by scouts/sonar and potentially generate a warning similar to what has been done for thoraxian tunnels recently. This way the player can prepare without a kinda unnatural warning like "monster incoming in X" t being necessary. Having them picked up and notifed to the player by scouts/sonar and potentially picking them up earlier by manual scouting/sonar might even enhance the exploration aspect of the game and create a meaningful use for sonar early-game in the first place - something the game is lacking at the moment in my opinion.
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tigersfan Jun 8, 2015 4:23 pm reporter ~0042083	kasnavada Also talked about this http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,17713.msg0.html

jerith Jun 8, 2015 4:42 pm reporter ~0042084	Oh, hey tigersfan. Great to see you back. :-)

Chris_McElligottPark Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm administrator ~0042532	They are now scoutable, but not mobile. The new territory stuff makes that bit not needed.

nas1m Jun 29, 2015 3:40 pm reporter ~0042535	I was more about having them scoutable underground to give a reason for manual scouting here, e.g. by having additional monsters roaming the map that are moving underground until they attack something and thus are not immediatley visible as those guarding the territories now are- Not that much surprise in those currently...

Chris_McElligottPark Jun 29, 2015 4:24 pm administrator ~0042545	Oh! Interesting idea. Flagging that for now as a maybe. Need to have time first for it.

Chris_McElligottPark Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm administrator ~0042921	Going a different way with this for now, but might be interesting at some point in the future. Thanks!

Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Jun 8, 2015 3:40 am	nas1m	New Issue
Jun 8, 2015 3:42 am	nas1m	Relationship added	related to 0017193
Jun 8, 2015 3:42 am	nas1m	Description Updated
Jun 8, 2015 4:23 pm	tigersfan	Note Added: 0042083
Jun 8, 2015 4:42 pm	jerith	Note Added: 0042084
Jun 20, 2015 7:57 am	nas1m	Summary	Make rogues mobile and scoutable? => Make monsters mobile and scoutable?
Jun 20, 2015 7:57 am	nas1m	Description Updated
Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Note Added: 0042532
Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Status	new => resolved
Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Resolution	open => fixed
Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Assigned To	=> Chris_McElligottPark
Jun 29, 2015 3:40 pm	nas1m	Note Added: 0042535
Jun 29, 2015 4:24 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Note Added: 0042545
Jun 29, 2015 4:24 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Assigned To	Chris_McElligottPark =>
Jun 29, 2015 4:24 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Status	resolved => acknowledged
Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Note Added: 0042921
Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Assigned To	=> Chris_McElligottPark
Sep 20, 2015 5:51 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Status	acknowledged => considering