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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021532AI War 2Balance IssueSep 11, 2019 8:52 pm
Reporterwm46 Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version0.884 The Helping Hat 
Fixed in Version0.888 Astro Examination 
Summary0021532: Showing what a ship type is before you hack it in an ARS (original: ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it)
DescriptionIntentional?

Seems like a waste of hacking points

It's on the planet to the south of my homeworld.
TagsNo tags attached.

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related to 0021376 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Way to view the stats for ships in fleets that you have not yet captured. 
related to 0021571 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Wave notification should let you preview the ship type 

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wm46

Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm

reporter  

Uhh ARS.save (490,168 bytes)

BadgerBadger

Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm

manager   ~0052644

That's operating as coded. Frigates from ARSs are limited to granting 1 or 2 units only because I was worried about balance. Keep in mind that if you're already investing a bunch of tech in that direction then you'll get a cap of 3 or 4. As to whether it's the best use of your hacking points, I don't know.

wm46

Aug 26, 2019 9:20 pm

reporter   ~0052645

It's a frigate? That changes my opinion on the ship granted, I had assumed that Brawler meant some kind of variant of the Vanguard, a high hp strikecraft. Having just one Vanguard would be useless for a slot, unless you use that slot to stack powerful ship types into one transport.

I guess the solution to this issue is to wait until Chris / Someone implements a ship dictionary (ala F1 menu from the first game) or other ship stat viewing GUI.

BadgerBadger

Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm

manager   ~0052647

Yeah, I definitely would like both the ship stat viewing GUI and the ability to see how many increased stats you get for a gicen unit for a tech upgrade.

BadgerBadger

Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am

manager   ~0052648

Weaponmaster, note I have repurposed this bug report to be about adding appropriate UI to let players see what a unit type is that's only mentioned in hovertext.

If I see a name I don't recognize offered by a GCA/new flagship/ARS/etc then the only way to know what that is to capture/hack the thing or read the XML. A lot of times I might have a particular need in my fleet ("I need more tankiness" or "I need something to help take out that Superfortress"), so it's desirable to know which thing I haven't taken yet might provide that.

Chris_McElligottPark

Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm

administrator   ~0053007

Thanks!

* "Toggle Stop-To-Shoot" is no longer bound to the "C" key. Instead, that is now bound to K.

* The "C" is now used as a new keybind called "Hold And Click To View Details Of Contents"
** Hold this key down when clicking a button or a ship in order to view the details of any ships contained within that clicked item (ships in a wave, ships in a transport, ships in a fleet, ships improved by a tech).
** This is SUPER important for finding out what the actual stats are of ships that otherwise would just be a list of names.

* The selection logic for the galaxy map view has been moved into the external open-source code, and will soon be able to be a lot more flexible like people have been asking for.
** Previously it was embedded in a way that made those other bits impossible, but no longer!

* The new "Details Of Multiple Ship Lines" screen is able to be shown for ships that you C-click directly, or on the sidebar, or on the galaxy map.
** But only if they actually have something of relevance to show!
** Right now it shows the details of ships that a GCA or ARS would grant, that are part of a fleet that you could capture but have not yet, or which are inside an AI reinforcement point (guard post), or which are being transported inside a fleet.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm wm46 New Issue
Aug 26, 2019 8:59 pm wm46 File Added: Uhh ARS.save
Aug 26, 2019 9:10 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052644
Aug 26, 2019 9:20 pm wm46 Note Added: 0052645
Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052647
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Summary ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it => Showing what a ship type is before you hack it in an ARS (original: ARS Giving only 1x Brawler for hacking it)
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Description Updated
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Aug 27, 2019 9:48 am BadgerBadger Status new => assigned
Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052648
Aug 27, 2019 9:51 am BadgerBadger Relationship added related to 0021376
Sep 4, 2019 3:09 pm BadgerBadger Relationship added related to 0021571
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status assigned => resolved
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 0.888 Astro Examination
Sep 11, 2019 8:52 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0053007