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0010098Valley 2Gameplay - Balance IssueDec 21, 2012 2:30 pmJan 3, 2013 9:15 am
ReporterBluddy Assigned Totigersfan  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version0.706 
Fixed in Version0.708 
Summary0010098: Fire mage has one OP attack
DescriptionI've been obliterating everything as a fire mage using the attack that makes many fireballs in an arc ('W'). For some reason, there's no cooldown on this attack, so I can just spam it non-stop. It's also one of my most powerful attacks. There's almost no reason to use my 'A' attack, and the 'D' attack has a long cooldown that makes it worse than my 'W' attack even though it's much weaker!
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Internal WeightFix Before Major Release

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khadgar

Dec 21, 2012 3:04 pm

reporter   ~0029244

The crescent spell I wouldn't say is overpowered, because it can't shoot anything below you in any fashion at all. If you're walking uphill you're good, but if you are walking downhill, it suddenly becomes worthless. I think this balances out nicely.

Now, of course, you can work around this by, in the downhill example, jumping over a monster and again placing yourself downhill from the monster, but that isn't always possible or easy (in a cave or a building), so I think it is a fair trade-off.

Gemzo

Dec 21, 2012 8:18 pm

reporter   ~0029260

Last edited: Dec 21, 2012 8:28 pm

 Yes but the damage of flame crescent compared to your primary is ridiculous. Primary takes many consecutive hits while the secondary might oneshot in many cases. The damage needs to be good because of how restrictive it is, but perhaps it is too high. Or perhaps as someone else said, maybe the cooldown should be increased a bit.

Now if you want to see an OP skill, just look at flameout. Great damage and caliber, 5 ammo cost, and actually works in MP unlike all the homing spells. Yeah that last reason is ballocks, so it probably doesn't need a serious nerf, but hey I might as well mention that I prefered to stay forgician for tier 2 (maybe even 3) in a certain playthrough because all of the later ammo abilities sucked/didn't work... I was using a high ammo character so yeah.

nekobaron

Dec 22, 2012 5:49 am

reporter   ~0029274

You tried blocking every attack with that arc on a high difficulty?

And yeah, it might be powerful but its an extremely specific ranged attack plus most of the time it hits into walls.

Bluddy

Dec 24, 2012 3:06 pm

reporter   ~0029299

From my (brief) experience, the fire mage is the most powerful class, mostly due to flame crescent. It's extremely powerful, and because it forms an arc, it's very hard to miss anything so long as you get used to firing from that range.

tigersfan

Jan 3, 2013 9:15 am

reporter   ~0029466

In for .708

* Embershot's damage has been more than doubled. To compensate, Explosive Crescent and Flameout have both gotten just a bit weaker.

Please let us know if this class needs further tweaking.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Dec 21, 2012 2:30 pm Bluddy New Issue
Dec 21, 2012 3:02 pm tigersfan Internal Weight => Fix Before Major Release
Dec 21, 2012 3:02 pm tigersfan Assigned To => tigersfan
Dec 21, 2012 3:02 pm tigersfan Status new => assigned
Dec 21, 2012 3:04 pm khadgar Note Added: 0029244
Dec 21, 2012 8:18 pm Gemzo Note Added: 0029260
Dec 21, 2012 8:27 pm Gemzo Note Edited: 0029260
Dec 21, 2012 8:28 pm Gemzo Note Edited: 0029260
Dec 22, 2012 5:49 am nekobaron Note Added: 0029274
Dec 24, 2012 3:06 pm Bluddy Note Added: 0029299
Jan 3, 2013 9:15 am tigersfan Note Added: 0029466
Jan 3, 2013 9:15 am tigersfan Status assigned => resolved
Jan 3, 2013 9:15 am tigersfan Resolution open => fixed
Jan 3, 2013 9:15 am tigersfan Fixed in Version => 0.708