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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0014080 | The Last Federation | Bug - Gameplay | Apr 15, 2014 5:32 am | Apr 21, 2014 8:32 pm | |
| Reporter | Hyfrydle | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 0.900 (Adviser, Attitude Dispatches, Science) | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 0.901 (Balance And Bugs) | ||||
| Summary | 0014080: Unable to research techs the advisor recommends | ||||
| Description | This is on my most advanced game yet and a save from a few versions back in case that affects anything. The advisor is recommending four techs all of which should be available from the Skylaxians. For some reason the option to research them doesn't appear on the research list when I visit the Skylaxians. Save attached. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Internal Weight | New | ||||
| related to | 0014318 | resolved | Chris_McElligottPark | You should be able to buy a technology from a friendly species |
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Thanks! * Previously, the research technology dispatch mission dropdown would just hide any options that the race already knew. Now it shows those options, and explains to the player that they cannot research that tech with that race because the race already knows it; and that they will have to either steal it or research it with a race that doesn't already know it. |
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This is confusing because the advisor lists the races that have the tech maybe it should list the races that don't so the player can then hopefully research it. Also getting a tech from a race for the player at the moment involves stealing which the player doesn't want to do to a friendly race, perhaps some peaceful way of getting techs from friendly races should be considered. |
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Good point! * The Adviser now makes it clear that you can only steal the techs from races that already know it, and then also lists the races that don't know but CAN research it with you. In terms of peaceable ways of getting it from existing races, I've wanted to avoid that because it tends to cause some balance issues. It makes it a tougher choice this way: 1. Research proactively, before your friends get what you want. 2. Steal from friends if you have to, or enemies if you can. 3. Research with enemies, if you can. I think that's mechanically the most interesting. |
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I can see how that makes sense and with the research bug squashed perhaps earlier researching might be more feasible. I will look forward to giving it a go after the next release. |
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Next release is out. :) |
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Your just too efficient, with this release I may actually win my first game. |
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You can -- I fast-forwarded in it, and it does succeed within a few years even of you doing nothing. Did not time it out exactly. :) |
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Just loaded up and got infomants on the Skylaxian and Burlust planets but I have no raid for tech option under hostile acts. |
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Thanks! * Previously, you were not allowed to raid trader convoys or raid for technology against races that were in the federation. ** Now you are allowed to, but you lose an additional 20 influence over the normal amount, this in the category "betrayal from within federation." |
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Also, in 1.002: * Now you can research techs with races even when they already know it. This is something we viewed as superior to being able to buy it from them, as determining credit worths of them would be extremely tricky and would really penalize you in the late game. So, instead: ** If a race already knows a tech but you do not, the time to research it with them is thirded. ** However, you gain no credits or influence with them for taking this action, unlike if they are learning it too. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Apr 15, 2014 5:32 am | Hyfrydle | New Issue | |
| Apr 15, 2014 5:32 am | Hyfrydle | File Added: Research Issue.save | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Internal Weight | => New |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036099 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | new => resolved |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Fixed in Version | => 0.901 (Balance And Bugs) |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:27 am | Hyfrydle | Note Added: 0036100 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:32 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036101 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:41 am | Hyfrydle | Note Added: 0036102 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:42 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036103 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:43 am | Hyfrydle | Note Added: 0036104 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:46 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036105 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 10:49 am | Hyfrydle | Note Added: 0036106 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 11:21 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036109 | |
| Apr 21, 2014 1:12 am | GC13 | Relationship added | related to 0014318 |
| Apr 21, 2014 8:32 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0036389 |
