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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0001420 | AI War 1 / Classic | Balance Issue | Nov 17, 2010 2:29 am | Nov 18, 2010 11:05 pm | |
| Reporter | Nypyren | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 4.035 | ||||
| Summary | 0001420: Spire Stealth Battleship: Various feedback | ||||
| Description | The cloaking/selection circle is about half the diameter of the farzoom ship icon. It's hard to tell when it's cloaked or not. Also: Is this thing really intended to be a fleet ship? It feels more like a starship to me. Also: It's HUUUUGELY overpowered currently. Or perhaps I haven't found its counter yet. I fear the enemy sending one after me. Also: With an attack range greater than its radar jamming range, it can attack ANY stationary target with impunity, and kite any target slower than itself. | ||||
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| related to | 0001428 | resolved | Chris_McElligottPark | Suggestion: nerf spire stealth battleship |
| related to | 0001427 | closed | Chris_McElligottPark | Suggestion: Move Spire starship unlockables to the Starship Constructor |
| related to | 0001478 | resolved | keith.lamothe | Stealth battleship waves overpowered |
| related to | 0001491 | resolved | Chris_McElligottPark | ALL Spire Bonus ships: Selection circle and cloaking circle radii are too small |
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I dont think there is a mechanic to add 'bonus ships' to the starship constructor. With that said, the only difference between the space dock and the starship constructor is the set of things they can build - the merc space dock can build the merc enclave ship, for instance. |
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Good point on the selection circle, that's fixed for 4.038, thanks. Yes this is a fleet ship. The spire starships are more like golems. The ship was nerfed some in 4.037, but it may still be out of balance. Good point on the attack range, I changed that in 4.037 so that the jamming range is now larger. Thanks! |
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Its a fleetship that acts very much like a starship, it has immunity to EMP, Nukes, Instant-kill.... |
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Indeed. I'm not going to debate it, though, and it won't be changed. For a lot of very good reasons it CAN'T be changed. |
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If they were starships there's no way we would ever get a homeworld start with one or ever get one through an adv. research ship unlock, since starships are neither starting homeworld options nor adv. research ship unlocks. By having them as fleetships we get easier access to them as opposed to being dependent on finding fabricators or something else to build them. It also helps with diversity of availability which is a key feature to how x4000 wants AI Wars to be; not all of them will be in every game. They are fleetships for a reason. |
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Bingo. |
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I didn't say it shouldn't be changed, I was just noting that they're LIKE starships. |
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Fair enough. They are indeed like starships, I agree. :) |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| Nov 17, 2010 2:29 am | Nypyren | New Issue | |
| Nov 17, 2010 2:57 am | Lancefighter | Note Added: 0003790 | |
| Nov 17, 2010 3:03 am | Nypyren | Summary | Spire Stealth Battleship: cloaking circle too small => Spire Stealth Battleship: Various feedback |
| Nov 17, 2010 3:03 am | Nypyren | Description Updated | |
| Nov 17, 2010 3:26 am | Nypyren | Description Updated | |
| Nov 18, 2010 4:17 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0003910 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 4:17 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | new => resolved |
| Nov 18, 2010 4:17 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => fixed |
| Nov 18, 2010 4:17 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| Nov 18, 2010 7:41 pm | wyvern83 | Relationship added | related to 0001428 |
| Nov 18, 2010 7:43 pm | wyvern83 | Relationship added | related to 0001427 |
| Nov 18, 2010 10:09 pm | Draco18s | Note Added: 0003939 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 10:28 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0003944 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 10:38 pm | wyvern83 | Note Added: 0003946 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 10:43 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0003947 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 11:03 pm | Draco18s | Note Added: 0003951 | |
| Nov 18, 2010 11:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0003953 | |
| Nov 19, 2010 5:37 pm | unclean | Relationship added | related to 0001478 |
| Nov 19, 2010 11:33 pm | Nypyren | Relationship added | related to 0001491 |
| Apr 14, 2014 9:29 am | Chris_McElligottPark | Category | Gameplay - Balance Issue => Balance Issue |
