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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0014857The Last FederationBalance IssueMay 11, 2014 7:25 am
ReporterZulgaines Assigned To 
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version1.011 (Hotfix) 
Summary0014857: Andor Trade Union
DescriptionThe "Boost Trade Fleets Between Planets" option the Trade Union has can be exploited at only 500 credits a pop to boost relations between two planets very quickly and form the federation a few moments after starting a new game.
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Zulgaines

May 1, 2014 11:46 pm

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Zulgaines

May 2, 2014 5:21 pm

reporter   ~0037270

Just adding on, you can also spam the option over and over and over in a row even though it's a timed bonus.

jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:27 pm

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Last edited: May 10, 2014 7:32 pm

i think many of these andor actions are potentially exploitable right now.

in my game tonight i found that the 'Send Medical Aid' action gave a nice bonus to mutual relations between the races so i used it.

I then found that i could do the same action again straight away for more relations boosts but no other effect as positive medical trend was already established. (screens attatched, pop ups are from log entry directly below window)

now in the case of the andor actions which affect RCI trends a simple fix would be to not allow the action to occur if the trend they would affect already exists (i.e. the positive medical trend in my game)

the other actions which can be exploited such as Zulgaines describes above actions which boost one RCI stat on every planet, need to become time limited or something like that to avoid spam potential... andors only able to do them once every 3 years? or some better solution i'm sure you'll think of ;)

side note... i am thoroughly enjoying TLF in its current state... can't wait for the coming quests to add more diversity to the game ;)

EDIT: thinking about it, my suggested fix for the RCI trend andor actions would still be exploitable as i could just pop over to the skylax world, get them to start a positive economic trend, and then head back to the andors for another 'send medical aid' relations boost. Perhaps a timed solution here too?

jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:28 pm

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jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:29 pm

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Drak

May 11, 2014 7:25 am

reporter   ~0037863

Not being able to create trends that already existed doesn't actually fix the exploit, and you don't even have to pop over to another world, you'd just swap between two Andor gifts to change the trends back and forth to get around it. Truly, can't think of any good solutions... Giving them a time requirement could prevent adapting to changing situations, such as sudden declerations of war, or disasters, etc. In the end though, you can consider buying bribe items the standard for no time credit to influence conversion, then price accordingly. So basically, you get the same influence for you buck, but the bonus for maintaining a good Andor relationship is that they throw in some RCI (or other) generosity...

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 1, 2014 11:46 pm Zulgaines New Issue
May 1, 2014 11:46 pm Zulgaines File Added: 2014-05-01_00001.jpg
May 2, 2014 3:19 pm Zulgaines Relationship added related to 0014890
May 2, 2014 5:21 pm Zulgaines Note Added: 0037270
May 10, 2014 7:27 pm jonasan Note Added: 0037852
May 10, 2014 7:28 pm jonasan File Added: Screenshot_2014_05_11_00_10_16.png
May 10, 2014 7:29 pm jonasan File Added: Screenshot_2014_05_11_00_10_09.png
May 10, 2014 7:32 pm jonasan Note Edited: 0037852
May 11, 2014 7:25 am Drak Note Added: 0037863