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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0014890 | The Last Federation | Bug - Gameplay | May 2, 2014 3:18 pm | May 2, 2014 5:31 pm | |
| Reporter | Zulgaines | Assigned To | Chris_McElligottPark | ||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 1.011 (Hotfix) | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 1.012 (War And Spies) | ||||
| Summary | 0014890: Mid-late game crazyness | ||||
| Description | This is going to be a very broad report becuase a lot of things went wrong in my last game, I'll start by linking my Trade Union report to this one becuase that's how the game started. So I had the federation within about a year. Anyway: The skylaxians + Andor ended up with 2000+ RCI values across the board after building a university on each planet, and after like 240 months their combined forces can't take the Thoraxian world. The political world stagnated and no one fought anyone or did anything besides build up some space stations, then I couldn't bring more people into the federation to help becuase: A. Everything involving the federation or even the dumping of toxic waste to kill the Thoraxians, all of it was like 90,000+ credits. B. There's no possible hostile actions to take vs the Thoraxians except killing their queen so I couldn't help them that way C. Even afer reseraching every bombardment and ground tech available to them they couldn't make a dent in the planet I eventually gave up. The early game feels a lot better but after that it degraded into me sitting around with nothing to really do. I didn't want to spend two hours grinding for credits and I couldn't even get a situation to come up where I could deploy my orbital bombers. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Internal Weight | New | ||||
| related to | 0014857 | new | Andor Trade Union |
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Couple of things, just for reference: A. In regards to this, there are some caps in 1.012 already that should make this more reasonable. That said, if you want to reduce those costs, then make the other races like the Thoraxians less, and the cost will come WAAAAAY down. Like into 4 digits or even 3. B. Killing the Thoraxian Queen actually weakens them enormously, so it's worth a shot. C. I think it's mainly a matter of the underground tunnels messing with you, from the sounds of it. Be right back on that. ;) |
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He's trying to take on the Thoraxians with Skylaxians and Andor. What I recommended to him worked just fine when I tried it. Ultimately it just involves getting the Peltians into the war; when getting them into the Federation failed, a false conspiracy succeeded. 125 is bigger than 40, so it doesn't take very many Peltian ships to crush the Thoraxians once orbit's been cleared for them. :-) |
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Okay, these two things handle it, plus whatever other changes in this version were contributing: * Fixed an issue where a lot of times you could not get races to declare war on another race. * Assassinating a hive queen now has a major new advantage: it completely removes any bonuses against bombing that that planet has until a new hive queen is installed. All the drones are running around on the surface. ** Consequently, the influence loss with the thoraxians is also now 4x higher. In your save, I earned about 6400 Credit real quick, then went to the Acutians and got them to declare war on the Thoraxians. Previously this wasn't even an option, of course, because of thing 1. I then made sure they got to the planet okay and were banging on them a bit -- did not take long -- and then I killed the hive queen. Within 4 years the planet belonged to the Acutians. Why couldn't the Andors and the Sklaxians do this on their own if I killed the hive queen? They don't do orbital bombing, so the weakening of the bombing resistance doesn't help there. |
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Cool! So there's two ways to do it, then. :) |
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I ended up beating it with some help from GC13, but just a couple things I noted on the forums that I feel I should at least share with you here: (Speaking of Peltians)"They literally wiped out the entire solar system by themselves in less than 5 years, all I had to do was break up some relations and that's about it. The most interactive thing I did for 30 years ended up being bringing them into the federation. It worked, but it still didn't feel right." Oh, and thanks so much for the hard work, all of it. I know you spend all day getting complaints right now but I really do love the game, from the system view down to the amazing fun I have in big space battles. The balance is still a bit wacky but besides that I love it all. |
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Thanks very much for the kind words. :) For now I'm off for most of the weekend, but we'll keep plugging away at it next week! Despite the complaints, I am having a blast as well. Most of the complaints seem to be in the form of people who are still having fun and yet want to see it become better, and that perfectly aligns with my own goals. It's always so awesome when people are that invested in something I've made that they WANT to give that kind of feedback! :) |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| May 2, 2014 3:18 pm | Zulgaines | New Issue | |
| May 2, 2014 3:18 pm | Zulgaines | File Added: wut.save | |
| May 2, 2014 3:19 pm | Zulgaines | Relationship added | related to 0014857 |
| May 2, 2014 3:23 pm | Zulgaines | Description Updated | |
| May 2, 2014 4:37 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0037263 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:03 pm | GC13 | Note Added: 0037264 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Internal Weight | => New |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0037265 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Status | new => resolved |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Fixed in Version | => 1.012 (War And Spies) |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Resolution | open => fixed |
| May 2, 2014 5:05 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Assigned To | => Chris_McElligottPark |
| May 2, 2014 5:07 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0037266 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:07 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Edited: 0037265 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:19 pm | Zulgaines | Note Added: 0037268 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:20 pm | Zulgaines | Note Edited: 0037268 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:23 pm | Zulgaines | Note Edited: 0037268 | |
| May 2, 2014 5:31 pm | Chris_McElligottPark | Note Added: 0037271 |
