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0015064The Last FederationBug - GameplayMay 19, 2014 1:55 pm
Reportertimfortress Assigned Tokeith.lamothe  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version1.016 (Finish Him!) 
Summary0015064: Burlust Stop War effect only for 1 year(not 3)
DescriptionEvery year when Burlust got higher military force than others Burlust will trigger "Opportunistic" attack but always choose the one that should be in peace treaty .So I have to stop their attack spending 1000 Leverage every year instead of every 3 year
the ur.png shows I stopped Burlust "Opportunistic" attack on Thorax every year
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timfortress

May 8, 2014 11:43 pm

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ur.PNG (755,624 bytes)

Drak

May 9, 2014 2:12 am

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Last edited: May 9, 2014 2:18 am

Are they under internal turmoil (from a warlord being dueled?) I've noticed that when they are in that state, they seem to have a single wildcard attack (basically whomever is the target of their rage, which can cycle) and you can neither stop that war, nor will that war abide by the 3yr peace rules. I have noticed though, that if they shift their attention for some reason, they immediately end the previous war, so they can't end up starting several wars all at once, but they have the ability to have one war going at a time, no matter peace agreements/etc.

NM, just noticed you circled sucessful STOP war events, which means it can't be from internal strife. My next thought then would be, are these different targets? The 3 year peace ban is only against the race that you got peace for (ie, we won't attack the ACUTIANS for another 3 years, but everybody else is fair game...)

I actually had a recent game where every time I asked the Skylaxians to end a war, they'd just pick someone else to fight (probably some internal pressure like optimal population was driving them to look for another planet), even if the target had kinda good relations with them. It actually worked greatly to my benefit, most of the time it only cost me 100cr or less to end the war, but like clockwork, every 3 years they'd go back through the cycle. The end result though, was that for a few hundred Cr every 3 years, I was getting 20 rep bonusses with half the system!

timfortress

May 9, 2014 2:26 am

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Last edited: May 9, 2014 2:27 am

no, they re not in turmoil ,but they have 10x large army than every one
and they are all target the same target

jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:03 pm

reporter   ~0037849

just saw the same thing happen with the skylaxians... paid them to stop attacking the acutians in 3010... and they turned their fleet on the evuks pretty much straight away... i stopped that attack later the same year and very soon after they went off to attack the acutians again which was a bit of a nightmare credits wise and almost lost me my federation (and later win)... managed to get them to stop attacking the acutians again in 3012 and just scraped home with my fed!

i think the bug is potentially in the political action 'Stop attacking' - does it only flag one race for the don't attack for three years? and as a result this kind of thing can happen if you use the political action again within the three year time period? (e.g. in my case, flagging the evuks as NoAttack, potentially removed the acutian NoAttack flag?)

Might be something else though as timfortress seems to suggest that he is seeing them repeatedly attack the same target (such as opportunist attack overruling the NoAttack flag?).... definately some sort of bug here still.

NB, i have attatched screeenshots to the thread, showing the log entries, each time the the pop up window for the log action is linked to the log entry shown directly below the window - which shows the date.

jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:05 pm

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jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:05 pm

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jonasan

May 10, 2014 7:06 pm

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Drak

May 11, 2014 6:42 am

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Hmm, in my game, once I got a stop attack against one race, that race didn't come back up again for 3 years, so I didn't see any swapping, but that might just be luck or something.

Chris_McElligottPark

May 13, 2014 11:39 am

administrator   ~0037984

Can you upload a savegame? That would be quite helpful in tracking it down.

jonasan

May 13, 2014 5:45 pm

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Stop attacking save.save (172,397 bytes)

jonasan

May 13, 2014 5:49 pm

reporter   ~0038013

so, just uploaded a save from the game I described above.

at this point the skylaxians are once again attacking the evuks.

opportunistic attack can be seen in the notifications.

i asked them to stop attacking the evuks less than 2 years ago and here they are, at it again!

you can see in the log the last time i asked them to stop, and also the two times i had to get them to stop attacking the acutians inside two years aswell, with the 'stop attacking evuks' in between (as documented in the pictures above).

hope that helps :)

Ragwortshire

May 14, 2014 5:37 am

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Last edited: May 14, 2014 5:39 am

I've also encountered this issue, this time with the Acutians. I'll upload the saves now.

EDIT: To be clear: Just after I took the 3002 save, I asked the Acutians to stop attacking (are you mad? You're the ones who'll have to pay out on the insurance!). Nevertheless, in 3004 they went for it again. In the meantime, they had declared war on most of the other races.

Ragwortshire

May 14, 2014 5:37 am

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Acu_vs_Thor_3002.save (69,833 bytes)

Ragwortshire

May 14, 2014 5:37 am

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Acu_vs_Thor_3004.save (87,505 bytes)

keith.lamothe

May 19, 2014 1:51 pm

administrator   ~0038178

I've retested this with both jonasan's save and Ragwortshire's, and I've run both 3 years with no "relapses" into wars against truce targets.

So I think this has been fixed in the intervening time.

If you see it again, please post a save (preferably after the first war starts, and before you do the stop-attacking deal). Thanks :)

timfortress

May 19, 2014 1:55 pm

reporter   ~0038179

yes, may be v1.091 changed the way of burlust thinking and fixed it, thanks

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
May 8, 2014 11:43 pm timfortress New Issue
May 8, 2014 11:43 pm timfortress File Added: ur.PNG
May 9, 2014 2:12 am Drak Note Added: 0037773
May 9, 2014 2:18 am Drak Note Edited: 0037773
May 9, 2014 2:26 am timfortress Note Added: 0037774
May 9, 2014 2:27 am timfortress Note Edited: 0037774
May 10, 2014 7:03 pm jonasan Note Added: 0037849
May 10, 2014 7:05 pm jonasan File Added: Screenshot_2014_05_10_23_50_28.png
May 10, 2014 7:05 pm jonasan File Added: Screenshot_2014_05_10_23_50_13.png
May 10, 2014 7:06 pm jonasan File Added: Screenshot_2014_05_10_23_49_54.png
May 11, 2014 6:42 am Drak Note Added: 0037861
May 13, 2014 11:38 am Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => keith.lamothe
May 13, 2014 11:38 am Chris_McElligottPark Status new => assigned
May 13, 2014 11:39 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0037984
May 13, 2014 5:45 pm jonasan File Added: Stop attacking save.save
May 13, 2014 5:49 pm jonasan Note Added: 0038013
May 14, 2014 5:37 am Ragwortshire Note Added: 0038055
May 14, 2014 5:37 am Ragwortshire File Added: Acu_vs_Thor_3002.save
May 14, 2014 5:37 am Ragwortshire File Added: Acu_vs_Thor_3004.save
May 14, 2014 5:39 am Ragwortshire Note Edited: 0038055
May 19, 2014 1:51 pm keith.lamothe Internal Weight => New
May 19, 2014 1:51 pm keith.lamothe Note Added: 0038178
May 19, 2014 1:51 pm keith.lamothe Status assigned => resolved
May 19, 2014 1:51 pm keith.lamothe Resolution open => fixed
May 19, 2014 1:55 pm timfortress Note Added: 0038179