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| ID | Project | Category | Date Submitted | Last Update | |
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| 0015232 | The Last Federation | Bug - Gameplay | May 20, 2014 3:44 am | May 23, 2014 6:55 am | |
| Reporter | zharmad | Assigned To | |||
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 1.019 (Solar Wind) | ||||
| Summary | 0015232: Failure of multiple notifications, such as disease and birth rates, due to negative RCI | ||||
| Description | This is UnfriendlyBG's save from the forum save http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,15663.0.html The surface symptoms is tanking RCI and zero children numbers on many planets - I've had a look at it and identified an underlying cause. One real problem is that diseases pop up on the planets and then go un-noticed. The planet info does NOT have some of the active diseases at present, and the governments can't deal the diseases properly. Notice the disease start dates at 3000, 3000, 3003, 3006, 3006, and another two or three later. Some have vaccinations, but I don't know when this is. There have been maggot poxes, but where is it on the planet info? Worst of all, players are not even being notified properly that it's a clear and present danger to their strategic game. The Andors have Lx_A and their planet has this in the notifications. Great. Note that the other disease do not have these notifications, which is decidedly unhelpful, the relapses come and go as they please. So by 3018 you get into this situation in the save. = = = Separately, there are events that absolutely tank RCI values far beyond others. This is far beyond what players can cope with if several races are being hit with them multiple times. See notes and inspect save. | ||||
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| related to | 0015228 | feedback | keith.lamothe | RCI related calculations possibly off |
| related to | 0015175 | new | Diseases devastating populations at breakneck speed? |
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Improving the CDC logic in every AI seems to be a better long term fix for this problem. They should not be needing Hydral help when that specific requires players to jump a lot of hoops - build science outpost with race, take it, outsource it, whatever. In return, increase the amount of gratefulness players receive when helping out with vaccine work. |
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It seems that some events appear to be ludicrous in their own right. A lot of players have noted this, although I haven't personally run into them yet. Take the Disappearing Rainforests at 3012. Boarine home planet stats fall, and they begin piteous plight. They don't decide to stop cutting rainforests so stats drop below -100 alarmingly. Since 3004, the Evucks have their repeating stockmarket crashs and plague of locusts on repeat. The Thoraxians catch these plague of locusts in 3009. The effect completely outscales radiations events. Skylaxians are more fortunate in that their events are mostly economic in nature. |
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Suggestions: - *Most important* Comprehensive rescaling of all RCI events so that they are consistent with player influence, and give them a severity ranking like Cyclone categories so the players KNOW there there will be trouble coming. - make the really damaging event shorter in nature. - decrease the chance that races will get hit my multiple bad events in sequence. - Allow the possibility of races, especially the Andors, to help each other in response to some of these events. E.g. transfer some RCI value between planets. - Consider suspending Evuck and Boarine resentment when this happens. - Autopause dispatches when BAD THINGS HAPPEN (should be a general issue in and of itself). |
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This is actually a huge problem that made me put aside the game, I hope you guys are at least checking it out, while you look at some smaller picture issues to fix. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| May 20, 2014 3:44 am | zharmad | New Issue | |
| May 20, 2014 3:44 am | zharmad | File Added: Ironman_1.save | |
| May 20, 2014 3:46 am | zharmad | Description Updated | |
| May 20, 2014 3:46 am | zharmad | Relationship added | related to 0015228 |
| May 20, 2014 3:47 am | zharmad | Relationship added | related to 0015175 |
| May 20, 2014 3:49 am | zharmad | Note Added: 0038190 | |
| May 20, 2014 3:51 am | zharmad | Note Edited: 0038190 | |
| May 20, 2014 4:00 am | zharmad | Description Updated | |
| May 20, 2014 4:12 am | zharmad | Note Added: 0038191 | |
| May 20, 2014 4:21 am | zharmad | Note Added: 0038192 | |
| May 20, 2014 4:25 am | zharmad | Summary | Failure of disease notification and models => Failure of multiple notifications, such as disease and birth rates, due to negative RCI |
| May 20, 2014 4:25 am | zharmad | Description Updated | |
| May 20, 2014 4:29 am | zharmad | Description Updated | |
| May 23, 2014 6:55 am | UnfriendlyBG | Note Added: 0038315 |
