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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021030AI War 2GUIMar 12, 2021 9:17 pm
ReporterChris_McElligottPark Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBETA 0.850 The Arrival of Fleets 
Fixed in VersionBeta 2.757 Super Mega Exciting Sidebar 
Summary0021030: A pretty major overhaul of icons and the ships sidebar to be more fleets-oriented
DescriptionThis is something I really want to do for 0.900, but exactly what I want to do is... unclear. Basically I'd like fewer icons, and for them to be more descriptive, and for them to be a lot less prevalent in the UI. We shall see what I'm able to do. This affects the ships sidebar as well as the main view of things in the interface.
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related to 0019849 resolvedChris_McElligottPark The new ships sidebar needs some more type separation 
child of 0021310 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Fleets Phase 3 - Parent 

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Chris_McElligottPark

Jul 10, 2019 11:25 am

administrator   ~0052148

I'll keep the icons approach as an option for a while probably, to make sure nobody feels left behind if they hate the new approach. But my goal is to make it so that we are primarily looking at fleet groups at the player level, and other ship groups at the AI/other-faction side.

The AI and other factions don't use fleets, so I have to auto-aggregate those in various ways to make it so that we can track how well their health is going (so if you click to a planet a while after a battle starts, you can see that group X of the AI is at x% health of whatever they started at in the recent past).

Big capturables and things of that nature would then have their own line items as well, so that they would be more obvious. A lot of this will give me a chance to make it so that the major ships of the AI and other factions are more obvious on the sidebar, and easier to keep status tabs on, and the other more minor ships are easier to see the status of in a battle-aggregate sort of view.

It's not a HUGE amount of work, per se, but it does stress me out a bit because it is a lot of changes and I'm hoping that it's something that gives people the sort of insight they want and makes legibility a lot higher compared to the current icons-based approach which has both too much info and too little when thinking at-a-glance.

I have a feeling this will go through a number of iterations before most people are happy with it, but at the moment I really hate the Local tab because I can't really read it most of the time, and the ship icons on the sidebar in Classic had much the same problem to be honest. I renamed the Ships tab to Local partly because I want it to be less ships-focused coming up soon, but I've kept wrestling with the design for the last while.

Chris_McElligottPark

Aug 16, 2019 9:39 pm

administrator   ~0052572

Excellent observations from Badger:

"I feel like you want the local sidebar to work differently for Player and Enemy units.

For the Enemy units, could you make it so the player could change the way information is displayed, maybe by clicking on part of it? So "Click on the enemy units section once and it gives each faction its own section (so you can see relative faction strengths easily). Click again and it shows everything sorted by strength so you can see which thing is the most dangerous. Click it again and it splits things based on immobile/mobile", and so on? I feel like that should be doable and give the player flexibility.

 I do kinda like the notion of having the player units broken down by fleets (maybe each line is a fleet, plus the immobile stuff at the end)?"

Chris_McElligottPark

Mar 12, 2021 9:17 pm

administrator   ~0060753

This is as done as I think I plan on it, but more things can be done as needed!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 18, 2019 12:13 pm Chris_McElligottPark New Issue
Apr 18, 2019 12:13 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => assigned
Apr 18, 2019 12:13 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Apr 18, 2019 12:13 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship added child of 0021022
Jul 8, 2019 3:22 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship added child of 0021310
Jul 8, 2019 3:22 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship deleted child of 0021022
Jul 8, 2019 3:40 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship added related to 0019849
Jul 10, 2019 11:25 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0052148
Aug 16, 2019 9:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0052572
Mar 12, 2021 9:17 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status assigned => resolved
Mar 12, 2021 9:17 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Mar 12, 2021 9:17 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => Beta 2.757 Super Mega Exciting Sidebar
Mar 12, 2021 9:17 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0060753