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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0021118AI War 2SuggestionJul 15, 2019 4:13 pm
ReporterHeartHunter7 Assigned ToBadgerBadger  
Status closedResolutionno change required 
Product VersionBETA 0.853 An Officer And A Bunch Of Fleets 
Fixed in Version0.872 Supply and Control 
Summary0021118: Sentinel getting army from air
DescriptionI see like Sentinel AIs often attacks me without notification and i cant be ready for it. I dont know, how is he getting these free armyes without notification. May be he is making attack against other AI and then retreat.
Now about civil war. Its more looks like 2x1 war. They making one big or a small attack against one AI planet, and then attacks me. Two AI can attack ever one planet in rotation, example with notification on the screen.

I dont afraid million AI units, I cant undestant how is he getting this free army? from what galaxy side? where will he attack? Or is Sentinel allow attack without notification?
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HeartHunter7

Apr 23, 2019 7:42 am

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20190423143145_1.jpg (470,453 bytes)

RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 23, 2019 8:56 am

reporter   ~0051327

Guessing it's threat from alerted planets leaving then trying to find a suitable target. There are no notifications for this.

This is happening a lot more recently since the AI flat out has more stuff on their planets.

BadgerBadger

Apr 23, 2019 9:29 am

manager   ~0051329

We'd need save games to figure out what's going on.

HeartHunter7

Apr 23, 2019 10:29 am

reporter   ~0051334

For example this moment. With independence tracing.
no notif.save (1,241,483 bytes)
no notif.savemet (47 bytes)
ArcenDebugLog.txt (1,551,282 bytes)

BadgerBadger

Apr 24, 2019 12:39 am

manager   ~0051361

I see a reasonably sized AI force attacking one of your planets. Presumably this is a Threat force. You'd need to give a save from before the attack in order to let me see what's happening. Just seeing the attack doesn't let me figure out what happened before.

In the past few months a lot of effort was put into making the AI actually willing to attack you. The AI is now much more aggressive and scarier than it used to be.

HeartHunter7

Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm

reporter   ~0051388

Ai like always agressive and big, nothing other. But after towers nerf ever, Sentinel still not so dangerous with his waves. Warden, seems more powerfull, than before.
"Presumably this is a Threat force", and why does Sentinel attacks me, if threat is Hunter.

That was hard, after screen bug win million notifications, make a replay .Look at Duergar in 2h 33m, what a free army from air? And look on Pandora, part of army its Sentinel with big army too. These two planets(like minimum) will attack me, but not always, its random. One time i load replay AI is getting free army and attackes me, one time he gettes nothing and just stay.
23.save (2,131,097 bytes)
23.savemet (47 bytes)
ArcenDebugLog-2.txt (310,907 bytes)
unknown.png (2,524,034 bytes)

HeartHunter7

Apr 27, 2019 9:32 am

reporter   ~0051425

0.854
If i attack with Botnet golem army "OneBraker" planet. AI will make immediately randomly counter attack one of my planets(Saif or Koenig)+defence "OneBraker" planet. Why does it do Sentinel? Why is he making attack and defence with mk4 ships on 173 AIP?
random attack6.save (1,769,463 bytes)

BadgerBadger

Apr 27, 2019 6:28 pm

manager   ~0051429

I loaded this save game. The AI attacked Koenig with a strong enough force that it felt it had a chance to take that planet.

I don't understand why this would be a problem

HeartHunter7

Apr 27, 2019 6:45 pm

reporter   ~0051431

Is it okay, that threat fleet is Sentinel? And mk 4 ships?

RocketAssistedPuffin

Apr 27, 2019 7:07 pm

reporter   ~0051433

Yes. AI units can be normal threat, which means they're annoyed and looking for a fight, waiting for a planet to attack, and show up as Sentinel. If you've annoyed a Mark 4 planet and some ships run away, they'll become threat.

If threat waits long enough with nothing to do, *then* it joins the Hunter Fleet, which is a more intelligent and coordinated form of threat.

HeartHunter7

Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm

reporter   ~0051461

Lol. Okay

BadgerBadger

Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm

manager   ~0052002

No sign of a bug here

HeartHunter7

Jul 15, 2019 4:13 pm

reporter   ~0052236

What if im not annoying enemy planet? i killed all enemy forces on this planet. And after 5-10 min, AI sentinel makes attacks without notification.
Still a lot of unpredictable attacks without notification from sentinel.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 23, 2019 7:42 am HeartHunter7 New Issue
Apr 23, 2019 7:42 am HeartHunter7 File Added: 20190423143145_1.jpg
Apr 23, 2019 8:56 am RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051327
Apr 23, 2019 9:29 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0051329
Apr 23, 2019 10:07 am Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => BadgerBadger
Apr 23, 2019 10:07 am Chris_McElligottPark Status new => assigned
Apr 23, 2019 10:29 am HeartHunter7 File Added: no notif.save
Apr 23, 2019 10:29 am HeartHunter7 File Added: no notif.savemet
Apr 23, 2019 10:29 am HeartHunter7 File Added: ArcenDebugLog.txt
Apr 23, 2019 10:29 am HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0051334
Apr 24, 2019 12:39 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0051361
Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm HeartHunter7 File Added: 23.save
Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm HeartHunter7 File Added: 23.savemet
Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm HeartHunter7 File Added: ArcenDebugLog-2.txt
Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm HeartHunter7 File Added: unknown.png
Apr 24, 2019 4:30 pm HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0051388
Apr 27, 2019 9:32 am HeartHunter7 File Added: random attack6.save
Apr 27, 2019 9:32 am HeartHunter7 File Added: random attack6.savemet
Apr 27, 2019 9:32 am HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0051425
Apr 27, 2019 6:28 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0051429
Apr 27, 2019 6:45 pm HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0051431
Apr 27, 2019 7:07 pm RocketAssistedPuffin Note Added: 0051433
Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0051461
Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm BadgerBadger Status assigned => closed
Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm BadgerBadger Resolution open => no change required
Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm BadgerBadger Fixed in Version => 0.872 Supply and Control
Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm BadgerBadger Note Added: 0052002
Jul 15, 2019 4:13 pm HeartHunter7 Note Added: 0052236