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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0024056AI War 2Balance IssueNov 3, 2020 12:15 pm
ReporterOvalcircle Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBeta 2.624 Revised Resource Bar 
Fixed in Version2.626 Kaiser's Marauders 
Summary0024056: The AIP requirement for a Difficulty 10 AI to tech up to Mark VI is higher than a Difficulty 1 AI
Descriptioni was playing a DIff 7 vs Diff 8 vs Diff 10 Friendly AI Civil War and noticed something.

As you can see the screenshots, the Blue Diff 10 is somehow a mark level below the Orange Diff 7 and Green Diff 8. (Ignore the budget stuff. I had debug tooltips on.)

I looked at all the AIP requirements for Mark Level increases for all the Difficulties in the XML, recorded them in Google Sheets, and found this.

If you look at the Google Sheet screenshot, there is a downward trend for the AIP required as the Difficulty goes up.
Except for Mark 6, where the AIP required is 780 for Diff 9 and then spikes up to 870 for Diff 10.
(For comparison, 860 AIP is required to get to Mark 6 for Diff 1).

Is it supposed to be like this?
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Ovalcircle

Nov 2, 2020 10:54 am

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BadgerBadger

Nov 2, 2020 11:20 am

manager   ~0059449

I think the overall levels should probably be revisited. Just going down 10 AIP for each higher difficulty seems too easy.

Chris_McElligottPark

Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am

administrator   ~0059456

Thanks!

* The AIP amount required for an AI to go to a higher level used to be as follows: https://bugtracker.arcengames.com/file_download.php?file_id=15174&type=bug
** We are making the following changes:
*** Mark 3:
**** Diff 4: 295 from 305
**** Diff 5: 275 from 295
**** Diff 6: 255 from 285
**** Diff 7: 235 from 275
**** Diff 8: 215 from 265
**** Diff 9: 195 from 255
**** Diff 10: 175 from 245
*** Mark 4:
**** Diff 4: 470 from 480
**** Diff 5: 450 from 470
**** Diff 6: 430 from 460
**** Diff 7: 410 from 450
**** Diff 8: 390 from 440
**** Diff 9: 370 from 410
**** Diff 10: 380 from 420
*** Mark 5:
**** Diff 5: 650 from 670
**** Diff 6: 650 from 660
**** Diff 7: 640 from 650
**** Diff 8: 620 from 640
**** Diff 9: 600 from 630
**** Diff 10: 590 from 620
*** Mark 6:
**** Diff 5: 810 from 820
**** Diff 6: 800 from 810
**** Diff 7: 790 from 800
**** Diff 8: 780 from 790
**** Diff 9: 770 from 780
**** Diff 10: 760 from 870 (the original was an error in general)
*** Mark 7:
**** Diff 6: 1100 from 1110
**** Diff 7: 1080 from 1100
**** Diff 8: 1060 from 1090
**** Diff 9: 1010 from 1080
**** Diff 10: 980 from 1070

BadgerBadger

Nov 3, 2020 11:51 am

manager   ~0059457

This looks like a pretty large difficulty increase. I think this is good, since we've been adding a number of features that make the game easier

Chris_McElligottPark

Nov 3, 2020 12:15 pm

administrator   ~0059458

Yup, that was my thinking as well.

Assuming that people are playing remotely conservatively with AIP, this won't have much effect. But one of my goals was getting the AI to mark 3 sooner, and then on the very highest difficulties making mark 7 something that the AI can actually reasonably hit.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Nov 2, 2020 10:54 am Ovalcircle New Issue
Nov 2, 2020 10:54 am Ovalcircle File Added: AI_Mark_level_AIP_Requirement.png
Nov 2, 2020 10:54 am Ovalcircle File Added: 20201101212133_1.jpg
Nov 2, 2020 10:54 am Ovalcircle File Added: 20201101212126_1.jpg
Nov 2, 2020 11:20 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0059449
Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am Chris_McElligottPark Status new => resolved
Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 2.626 Kaiser's Marauders
Nov 3, 2020 11:46 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0059456
Nov 3, 2020 11:51 am BadgerBadger Note Added: 0059457
Nov 3, 2020 12:15 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0059458