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IDProjectCategoryLast Update
0026236AI War 2SuggestionFeb 11, 2022 5:39 pm
ReporterStrategic Sage Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product VersionBeta 3.791 Network Defragmentation 
Fixed in VersionBeta 3.800 That Expert Has A Deathwish! 
Summary0026236: Expert 'FRS Reform'
DescriptionLacking any real way to balance them as implemented for Humanity Ascendant, FRS ships would be replaced by an identical version of themselves that does *not* give the fleet bonus. Costs remain as they are.
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child of 0025891 feature for laterChris_McElligottPark Parent: Todo for expert mode. 

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Strategic Sage

Feb 2, 2022 4:38 pm

reporter   ~0064062

Another suggestion put out there by CRC; FRS ships could start off at a lower mark, but have the ability mark up via Expatriate. If this was done I think we'd probably want to eliminate/reduce the AIP cost since we're saying you should invest science in them also. I don't care if we want to go this way or not, and it's something that could probably be tweaked later. The fleet bonus part is the key aspect.

CRCGamer

Feb 2, 2022 5:45 pm

developer   ~0064064

That was once the conversation went towards them being boosted non-standard versions of the ships that don't grant fleet bonuses. But would as a theme be variants cooked up by other forces, and thus under the auspices of Expatriate tech. And indeed AIP costs would be very low if we went that route. I'd think around 2 or 3 AIP. Since the line would be larger counts than usual ARS options on top of being a special variant.

Chris_McElligottPark

Feb 11, 2022 11:11 am

administrator   ~0064309

Why not just remove the FRS from expert mode? There's only so much we'd be losing from that, and it's simpler. Or are you taking general implementation on this, CRC? You had mentioned parts of this previously.

Chris_McElligottPark

Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm

administrator   ~0064326

Thanks!

* New galaxy option under Balance, Human Balance: Disable Fleet Wide Bonuses
** Ships from the Fleet Research Station (FRS) are powerful ships that also give a bonus to the rest of their fleet. In Expert mode and above, this is judged to be too powerful. Therefore, they still are a powerful ship line in and of themselves, but they no longer give a bonus to the rest of their fleet.
** Untested, but should work.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Feb 2, 2022 4:29 pm Strategic Sage New Issue
Feb 2, 2022 4:38 pm Strategic Sage Note Added: 0064062
Feb 2, 2022 5:45 pm CRCGamer Note Added: 0064064
Feb 4, 2022 5:00 pm Chris_McElligottPark Relationship added child of 0025891
Feb 11, 2022 11:11 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0064309
Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status new => resolved
Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => Beta 3.800 That Expert Has A Deathwish!
Feb 11, 2022 5:39 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0064326