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0028775Heart Of The MachineGameplay IssueJun 11, 2024 3:29 pmJun 23, 2024 3:29 am
ReporterMintdragon Assigned ToChris_McElligottPark  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version0.545 Focus 
Fixed in Version0.553 Fenceline 
Summary0028775: Bulk Units attack military bases unprovoked
DescriptionFollow-up from Discord conversation
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has duplicate 0028780 resolvedChris_McElligottPark Bulk Units set to "Deter And Defend" attacking "alarted" enemies very far away. 

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Mintdragon

Jun 11, 2024 3:29 pm

developer  

Attacking military.save (3,836,484 bytes)

dragorislordofmercy

Jun 14, 2024 2:35 am

reporter   ~0069239

Especially if you give them the Tactical Rifle. They go nuts on the military bases.

Chris_McElligottPark

Jun 19, 2024 12:52 am

administrator   ~0069308

The save provided does show this for bulk units that are moving. Is there also an example save of this in deter and defend mode, by any chance?

Half Phased

Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm

reporter   ~0069322

My saves with a predator squad in Deter and Defend shooting at POI guards, near a military base, the Observatory and an oil field.

Moving the squad will draw a load of hate from the POI guards of all nearby locations, but otherwise, very few people actually care about a squad of terrifying robots taking sniper shots from across the road at them.

Autosave turn 321: before I've even built a bulk depot to deploy a bulk squad near my base.

Predators deployed: just deployed a bulk predator squad. It's agroed the POI guards near where it was placed, but is now shooting at the oil field.

Saved on exit turn 328: this is an older save than the others, except 321. Moving the bulk predator squad here will agro *every* POI guard and cause them to shoot at it. They'll then follow the predator and kill it, then go home.

Convictor gets involved: The Convictor at the observatory will decide to shoot the predator squad. Sometimes it fires once, sees that it's doing very little damage as the repair spiders fix them up and goes home. Sometimes it stays longer and calls in it's friend for fire support. They eventually get bored and go home.

Exit of turn 337: a save where somehow the observatory POI guards have been aggroed. In my own testing, they were able to destroy every android I have.
Convictor gets involved.save (3,945,458 bytes)
Saved On Exit Landing Turn 328.save (3,945,006 bytes)
Autosave Landing Turn 318.save (3,944,726 bytes)
Autosave Landing Turn 324.save (3,945,984 bytes)
Autosave Landing Turn 321.save (3,943,442 bytes)
Saved On Exit Landing Turn 337.save (3,945,959 bytes)

Pingcode

Jun 20, 2024 8:33 am

reporter   ~0069337

An ambient battle between Noio and Vericorp is taking place three blocks north of Harrison Memorial Plant, with Noio winning. After a couple of turns, Noio wins and a sniper subsequently targets the guards at Harrison Memorial Plant. This alerts the POI guards and turns them hostile, which prompts any bulk robots to open fire on them too (though while alerted the POI guards also attack non-blending player assets within a fairly sizeable range too)
Ambient Corp Battle targets Military POI.save (3,703,775 bytes)
Vericorp POI to be attacked soon.save (3,703,046 bytes)
Vericorp POI with placed bulk robot.save (3,705,721 bytes)

Chris_McElligottPark

Jun 20, 2024 9:51 pm

administrator   ~0069368

Thanks!

* Lots of improvements to NPC targeting, with some various extensions.
** Noncombatants, and guards in a passive stance, are now identified.
** Black ops attackers, and related defenders, will ignore all of the above even if they would normally shoot at them, as they are busy.
** Your own bulk androids will also ignore noncombatants, and will also ignore passive guards.
** Your own bulk androids are also now barred from walking into POIs with a security clearance above 1 (there is no good reason for them to do that, and that sort of pathing was part of what was causing some conflicts.
** This solves: your bulks firing across the fenceline and being jerks in general; your bulks shooting friendly civilians; black ops units shooting across the fenceline and causing trouble for no sensible reason.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Jun 11, 2024 3:29 pm Mintdragon New Issue
Jun 11, 2024 3:29 pm Mintdragon File Added: Attacking military.save
Jun 14, 2024 2:35 am dragorislordofmercy Note Added: 0069239
Jun 19, 2024 12:52 am Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => Chris_McElligottPark
Jun 19, 2024 12:52 am Chris_McElligottPark Status new => feedback
Jun 19, 2024 12:52 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0069308
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased Note Added: 0069322
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Convictor gets involved.save
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Saved On Exit Landing Turn 328.save
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Autosave Landing Turn 318.save
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Autosave Landing Turn 324.save
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Autosave Landing Turn 321.save
Jun 19, 2024 1:28 pm Half Phased File Added: Saved On Exit Landing Turn 337.save
Jun 20, 2024 8:33 am Pingcode Note Added: 0069337
Jun 20, 2024 8:33 am Pingcode File Added: Ambient Corp Battle targets Military POI.save
Jun 20, 2024 8:33 am Pingcode File Added: Vericorp POI to be attacked soon.save
Jun 20, 2024 8:33 am Pingcode File Added: Vericorp POI with placed bulk robot.save
Jun 20, 2024 9:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status feedback => resolved
Jun 20, 2024 9:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed
Jun 20, 2024 9:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 0.553 Fenceline
Jun 20, 2024 9:51 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0069368
Jun 23, 2024 3:29 am Trogg Relationship added has duplicate 0028780