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0000336AI War 1 / ClassicBug - OtherOct 9, 2010 1:25 am
ReporterWinter Born Assigned Tokeith.lamothe  
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Product Version3.702 
Fixed in Version3.705 
Summary0000336: Expansion ships not seeded in any new map seeds
DescriptionI have both exp enabled, complex ships. I generated at least 30 new map seeds and saw no zenith or CoN ships at any starting positions. Most of the maps seemed to have a majority of "simple" ship types. I went back to the 3.1 and generated 5 random maps and got at least 1 exp ship each time. I then entered the same seeds in the unity version - got no exp ships on any of the seeds. Turned the expansions off then back on using the buttons to the right of the new map seed button. Expansion ships now appear in new map seeds. I think the exp ships disappeard when the new patch 702 was applied.
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Dazio

Oct 5, 2010 10:16 pm

reporter   ~0000409

I think I can confirm this.

Both expansion's serials have been entered, both are enabled, complex ship types selected I did not see any Zenith or Neinzul ships in about 15 map generations.

Note that I did see a cutlass which I think is a complex ship.

Winter Born

Oct 6, 2010 2:08 am

reporter   ~0000411

Last edited: Oct 6, 2010 11:58 am

Yea, I saw some more advanced ships once in a while , but most seemed to be "simple" Also while it was bugged different ships showed up on the same map seed between the preunity and unity versions. After I toggled the expansions off and back on and the bug went away and the 2 game versions seemed to have the exact same ships in the same spawn points on the same seeds. It is like the game forgot the expansions were enabled after the 02 patch was applied. Even restarting the game failed to fix the bug.

(edit)I noticed this after the 702 patch but can not absolutly say the patch bugged it. Restarting the game was required for me to switch between old/unity installs. Map style was spokes.

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 6, 2010 11:36 am

administrator   ~0000414

Humm, that is odd indeed.

orzelek

Oct 6, 2010 1:30 pm

reporter   ~0000419

Last edited: Oct 6, 2010 1:32 pm

Gone to host the game menu - first random seed has one youngling and two zeniths (mirror and bomber). Few next random seeds also contain ususally at least youngling and few Z types. I tested with complex ships and 80 planet realistic map. It would seem that bug is selective..?

Can you guys check seeds:
1640136718, 778808594 - each has at least one Z ship and youngling

Tested on 3.702

Winter Born

Oct 6, 2010 7:03 pm

reporter   ~0000424

Last edited: Oct 6, 2010 8:47 pm

testing 1640136718, default load is both exp, realistic map, normal ships
start 702 with both exp enabled - no exp ships, 8p start to record ships (file uploaded
quit game back to lobby
 turn ZR off, no CoN ship
  turn CoN off and ZR back on, no exp ships
   turn CoN on as well, get Z Bombard at lowest spawn
    change from normal to simple ships, z Bombard still at lowest spawn (no ships seemed to change)
     change from simple back to normal, lose z Bombard, and get z Viral shreadd and CoN commando
      change from normal to complex, keep CoN commando and Viral Shredd moves to a new planet
        system now stable with changing ship type, or allow/disallow exp giving repeatable results

Winter Born

Oct 6, 2010 7:05 pm

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Winter Born

Oct 7, 2010 10:54 am

reporter   ~0000439

restarted game same default load -- no exp ships on map
 no exp ships listed in simple/nornal/complex dropdown.
  turned off ZR - CoN ship now listed in ship normal dropdown and CoN Tiger appears on one spawn on normal ships

restarted game with default load -- no exp ships on map
no exp ships listed in simple/nornal/complex dropdown.
  turned off CoN - ZR ship now listed in ship dropdowns and ZR ships show on map spawn points as well.

Seems like my install forgets the expansions are installed and turned on by default.

Saved a copy of my AI War folder to my dropbox account if you want it.

getting ready to install the 703 patch

Winter Born

Oct 7, 2010 11:02 am

reporter   ~0000440

Last edited: Oct 8, 2010 11:17 am

703 patch installed - no change
also confirmed that even though the ship type is defaulted to normal only simple ships are populated. after I turn one of the exp off/on I still have to change the normal to something else then back to normal to get normal ships to spawn

Uninstalled AI war, Reinstalled 701 and patched to 703, problem persists, game rememberd my default settings, map seed, licence information so uninstal missed some things.

Unistalled AI war, purged program files/AI War branch, reinstalled 701 and enabled game and exp all in trial mode. load test map seed and exp ship showes up in map spawn and in ship type dropdowns. Patch to 703 and game is broken again. (trial mode only supports simple ships) but turning the exp off then back on gets the exp ship to spawn.

Winter Born

Oct 8, 2010 12:01 am

reporter   ~0000515

see bug report 351 for what seems to be a related problem

Chris_McElligottPark

Oct 8, 2010 10:47 pm

administrator   ~0000558

Should have been resolved in 3.705, but please let us know if you still see it!

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Oct 5, 2010 9:46 pm Winter Born New Issue
Oct 5, 2010 10:16 pm Dazio Note Added: 0000409
Oct 6, 2010 2:08 am Winter Born Note Added: 0000411
Oct 6, 2010 2:09 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000411
Oct 6, 2010 11:36 am Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0000414
Oct 6, 2010 11:36 am Chris_McElligottPark Assigned To => keith.lamothe
Oct 6, 2010 11:36 am Chris_McElligottPark Status new => assigned
Oct 6, 2010 11:56 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000411
Oct 6, 2010 11:58 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000411
Oct 6, 2010 1:30 pm orzelek Note Added: 0000419
Oct 6, 2010 1:32 pm orzelek Note Edited: 0000419
Oct 6, 2010 7:03 pm Winter Born Note Added: 0000424
Oct 6, 2010 7:05 pm Winter Born File Added: 1st real norm default game load.sav
Oct 6, 2010 7:06 pm Winter Born Note Edited: 0000424
Oct 6, 2010 8:47 pm Winter Born Note Edited: 0000424
Oct 7, 2010 10:54 am Winter Born Note Added: 0000439
Oct 7, 2010 11:02 am Winter Born Note Added: 0000440
Oct 7, 2010 11:22 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000440
Oct 7, 2010 11:23 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000440
Oct 7, 2010 11:45 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000440
Oct 7, 2010 12:36 pm Winter Born Note Edited: 0000440
Oct 8, 2010 12:01 am Winter Born Note Added: 0000515
Oct 8, 2010 11:17 am Winter Born Note Edited: 0000440
Oct 8, 2010 10:47 pm Chris_McElligottPark Note Added: 0000558
Oct 8, 2010 10:47 pm Chris_McElligottPark Status assigned => resolved
Oct 8, 2010 10:47 pm Chris_McElligottPark Fixed in Version => 3.705
Oct 8, 2010 10:47 pm Chris_McElligottPark Resolution open => fixed