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0007374Valley 1Suggestion - Balancing IssuesMay 30, 2012 11:27 pm
ReporterPartisus Assigned To 
Status consideringResolutionopen 
Product Version1.006 
Summary0007374: Light Orb too efficient
DescriptionThe light orb spell has a massive projectile, high speed, long range, solid dps, and huge mana efficiency. Maybe make it cost more, or harder to hit with?
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Quaix

Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm

reporter   ~0023076

Ever since Earth Rage was nerfed, energy orb has been my spell of choice.

I have two suggestions:
 - The spell is way too mana efficient. 50% increase in mana cost
 - Too few enemies resist it. If I'm not wrong, no single standard enemy resists it, only some bosses.

Leafy Greens

Apr 30, 2012 2:27 pm

reporter   ~0023080

Last edited: Apr 30, 2012 2:27 pm

Quaix:
Actually, some bats resist light attacks.

LintMan

Apr 30, 2012 3:15 pm

reporter   ~0023087

Enerygy Orb was already recently nerfed. As it is, it already lost its piercing and does a fair bit less damage than fireball for about the same cost (IIRC).

khadgar

Apr 30, 2012 3:54 pm

reporter   ~0023092

Lintman: they retained energy pulse, the piercing spell, but ADDED energy orb, which is the same thing but without piercing, and double damage.

Ever since, I've never used energy pulse.

Omosh

Apr 30, 2012 4:01 pm

reporter   ~0023093

Last edited: Apr 30, 2012 4:06 pm

I definitely find myself using Energy Orb more than any of the other single-target long range spells.

I currently value damage per mana way more than I do dps. Lieutenants and overlords are long sustained fights and Forest Rage doesn't really float my boat for it. It feels much more like trash destroyer. Which isn't really a necessary role in my play style as I skip most trash anyways. If I was to choose my favorite secondary it would easily be Fireball which feels close to the efficiency of Energy Orb but lacks slide and projectile size.

Fun fact: With no enchantments on, Forest Rage 3 has a DPM of .6 which is lower than both Fireball 1(.7) and Energy Orb 1(.9) on my current character.

Side note: Does anybody ever use Plasma Bolt? If I want to go for a light damage spell I'm going for Energy Orb.

Terraziel

Apr 30, 2012 4:20 pm

reporter   ~0023095

"Side note: Does anybody ever use Plasma Bolt? If I want to go for a light damage spell I'm going for Energy Orb."

In one of my current worlds Plasma Bolt does 25% higher DPS than Energy Orb and is sufficiently cheap it can be fired infinitely.

LintMan

Apr 30, 2012 4:24 pm

reporter   ~0023096

@khadgar - I think Energy Pulse was split into Energy Slice and Energy Orb. Silce kept the piercing but got a half damage nerf. Orb kept the damage, but lost the piercing while also not having any pushback. Either way, it was a nerf.

Purlox

Apr 30, 2012 4:44 pm

reporter   ~0023097

I don't see light orb as best spell in the game. Although I also use, because it doesn't knockback enemies and because the fire rate suits my needs. (smaller fire rate would hurt me)

@Tarraziel: I use it against bosses.

Omosh

Apr 30, 2012 5:20 pm

reporter   ~0023100

Out of curiosity I just got both Plasma Bolt and Energy Orb maxed out on my new continent. Plasma Bolt does have higher dps by default, but once you cap cooldown at .1 for the Bolt, Orb can quickly close the gap and come out on top again with both slide and larger projectile.

Toll

May 1, 2012 2:51 pm

reporter   ~0023171

In addition, plasma bolt doesn't slide along surfaces like most other spells do. That's basically what puts me off of it, or I would use it.

jruderman

May 30, 2012 11:27 pm

reporter   ~0025254

Light Orb's power is offset by two things:

* It is difficult to upgrade, requiring Coral.

* It does not have a corresponding Shield spell, so your +60% White Spell Power enchant will not simultaneously improve your shield.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
Apr 30, 2012 1:49 pm Partisus New Issue
Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm Quaix Note Added: 0023076
Apr 30, 2012 2:27 pm Leafy Greens Note Added: 0023080
Apr 30, 2012 2:27 pm Leafy Greens Note Edited: 0023080
Apr 30, 2012 3:15 pm LintMan Note Added: 0023087
Apr 30, 2012 3:54 pm khadgar Note Added: 0023092
Apr 30, 2012 4:01 pm Omosh Note Added: 0023093
Apr 30, 2012 4:06 pm Omosh Note Edited: 0023093
Apr 30, 2012 4:20 pm Terraziel Note Added: 0023095
Apr 30, 2012 4:24 pm LintMan Note Added: 0023096
Apr 30, 2012 4:44 pm Purlox Note Added: 0023097
Apr 30, 2012 5:20 pm Omosh Note Added: 0023100
May 1, 2012 8:38 am tigersfan Internal Weight => Feature Suggestion
May 1, 2012 8:38 am tigersfan Status new => considering
May 1, 2012 2:51 pm Toll Note Added: 0023171
May 30, 2012 11:27 pm jruderman Note Added: 0025254