0008617: Dont allow Urban Sniper Balloons in JtP missions - DEV Arcen

ID	Project	Category		Date Submitted	Last Update

0008617	Valley 1	Suggestion - Balancing Issues		Jun 18, 2012 2:37 am	Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm

Reporter	Misery	Assigned To	Chris_McElligottPark
Status	resolved	Resolution	fixed
Product Version	1.101 ( Post-Launch Series 1)
Fixed in Version	1.500 Linux Support!

Summary	0008617: Dont allow Urban Sniper Balloons in JtP missions
Description	Specifically because their attack is pretty much undodgeable in this mission type. The very instant they appear on screen, they fire that lightning-fast shot at you, and.... that's it. You lose. There's nothing you can do. The ONLY way I've found to get past these is to get lucky and have one spawn behind a wall. If it spawns just in the air and not behind anything, there's nothing you can do except just hope it somehow misses, or appears on screen at just the right angle so your forward running causes it's shot to pass over you. There's no time to react to that particular attack; not to mention that JtP missions in the Abandoned Town area type tend to be filled with unusual amounts of projectiles anyway (crawlers, Gazebos, Predators, Crashed Speeders), which makes it even less likely that you can avoid that particular attack. Those other enemies are fine, albeit brutal, but this one in particular is very ill-suited to this type of mission. Not a particularly important issue whatsoever, but I thought I should mention it.
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Internal Weight	Feature Suggestion

jruderman Jun 18, 2012 2:46 am reporter ~0025914	If I use a stealth enchant, I can see them before they see me.

Misery Jun 18, 2012 4:25 am reporter ~0025918	Yeah, I know, that one seriously feels like cheating to me though; JtP missions pretty much become impossible to lose with a cloak enchant; frankly, it's effect just should be turned off for those. So for the purposes of bringing up this particular issue, I ignored it. Not to mention, the player might not always have one of those available for use at the time.

Pyrrhic Jul 1, 2012 12:10 am reporter ~0026186	I actually think lots enemies are difficult in JtP missions, including Urban Sniper Balloons - for example, rhinos and bulls can run in from off-screen, giving you maybe a second to react. That is, unless you use a Stealth Enchant. Getting rid of Urban Sniper Balloons would help, but there'd still be a lot of annoying JtP enemies left. On the other hand, getting rid of all of these annoying enemies seems like it'd leave JtP missions feeling very limited, with only a couple different monster types in them. I've made a suggestion that players be given an intrinsic stealth bonus for these missions, which I made 'related' to this suggestion; I'd appreciate it if you gave your feedback on it.

Chris_McElligottPark Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm administrator ~0027954	Thanks! * Clockwork Probes and Urban Sniper Balloons are now banned from journey to perfection missions, as those made those sorts of missions really too hard. * Journey To Perfection Missions no longer allow stealth enchants while you are playing them, as that was exploitative as well.

Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Jun 18, 2012 2:37 am	Misery	New Issue
Jun 18, 2012 2:46 am	jruderman	Note Added: 0025914
Jun 18, 2012 4:25 am	Misery	Note Added: 0025918
Jun 18, 2012 3:10 pm	tigersfan	Internal Weight	=> Feature Suggestion
Jun 18, 2012 3:10 pm	tigersfan	Status	new => considering
Jul 1, 2012 12:01 am	Pyrrhic	Relationship added	related to 0008717
Jul 1, 2012 12:10 am	Pyrrhic	Note Added: 0026186
Aug 20, 2012 6:11 am	Pyrrhic	Relationship added	related to 0009283
Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Note Added: 0027954
Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Status	considering => resolved
Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Fixed in Version	=> 1.500 Linux Support!
Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Resolution	open => fixed
Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm	Chris_McElligottPark	Assigned To	=> Chris_McElligottPark