0009466: Let threat attack at random sometimes - DEV Arcen

ID	Project	Category		Date Submitted	Last Update

0009466	AI War 1 / Classic	Suggestion - AI Behavior And Tactics		Sep 3, 2012 9:30 pm	Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm

Reporter	Faulty Logic	Assigned To	keith.lamothe
Status	resolved	Resolution	fixed
Fixed in Version	5.090

Summary	0009466: Let threat attack at random sometimes
Description	So every undecided_time_increment or so, threat has a small chance of throwing fp calculations out the window and attacking anyway. This can cause major damage in some cases, adds to the unpredictability of the AI, and makes permanently paralyzing threat with 100% confidence impossible. Threat should also immediately do something if an AIHW is attacked.
Tags	No tags attached.

Internal Weight	New

TechSY730 Sep 3, 2012 9:36 pm reporter ~0028177 Last edited: Sep 3, 2012 9:37 pm	Of course the tricky thing will be to figure out what the interval should be and what the chance should be each interval, and whether to make one, both, or neither a constant, and if not a constant, what thing(s) would it vary with?

Faulty Logic Sep 3, 2012 9:45 pm reporter ~0028178	I was thinking something like doing a check every 20 minutes and having the chance be around 10 percent. So the chance is there, while relying on this mechanic to get threat to attack would not work.

TechSY730 Sep 5, 2012 9:57 am reporter ~0028223 Last edited: Sep 5, 2012 9:58 am	@Faulty Logic Those values seem a bit high, when you consider how long game are. It's hard to say by just "eyeballing" it though. I'll have to break out some math to figure out what expected average durations between these "forced threat enters" and expected deviations from that average given a set of durations and chances. Now where did I put that probability and statistics textbook?...

Faulty Logic Sep 5, 2012 11:36 pm reporter ~0028245	My goal was a .5 chance of random threat attack every three hours or so. Those values produced a .61 chance/three hours. For about 50, then 1 10% check every 25 minutes is about right. This is pretty high, but threat does say "ships that will soon be attacking your planets."

Battlecrydnx Sep 6, 2012 12:38 am reporter ~0028246 Last edited: Sep 6, 2012 12:39 am	Make it so it's a 3% chance every 10 minutes. Additive chance so 3% first 10 6% over 20m, ect ect. And -possibly- add it as a modifyable varible so we can make it so that the random wave chance is 1% every 2 minutes ect. Or add it as a minor faction(Or AI Plot) and make it so the higher value it has(IE. dyson sphere can be 1-10) the higher chance it has of randomly spawning a wave to wave you.

keith.lamothe Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm administrator ~0028599	For 5.090: * Since "make the threatballs fish or cut bait" was 0000001 on the second round of the 6.0 poll: Threat ships behave as they used to for about 30 minutes after being freed, but after that they are switched to an alternate "Threat Fleet" behavior that is somewhat similar to the new Special Forces mechanic. * Note: this only happens on Difficulty 7+, as it's not the AI getting anything extra, it's just behaving more intelligently (in theory) with what it has. If an AI homeworld or core world is under attack, the threat fleet will rally to defend it. Otherwise, if it sees an accessible non-AI planet with a significant human presence that it thinks it can take out, it goes to attack that (it will still pool up at the entry wormhole in some cases, until enough of them are there to pass the threshold, so they don't march in to the grinder one-by-one). Otherwise, it picks a planet in AI territory to hang out at until either of the two above conditions are met. If a carrier is spontaneously formed from ships that have a significant threat-fleet population, the carrier (and anything it spawns) is also considered threat-fleet. Not exactly what any one request was going for, iirc, but I think this will make that threat at least more interesting. Thanks for the feedback :)

Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
Sep 3, 2012 9:30 pm	Faulty Logic	New Issue
Sep 3, 2012 9:31 pm	Faulty Logic	Relationship added	related to 0007016
Sep 3, 2012 9:36 pm	TechSY730	Relationship added	related to 0009465
Sep 3, 2012 9:36 pm	TechSY730	Note Added: 0028177
Sep 3, 2012 9:37 pm	TechSY730	Note Edited: 0028177
Sep 3, 2012 9:45 pm	Faulty Logic	Note Added: 0028178
Sep 5, 2012 9:57 am	TechSY730	Note Added: 0028223
Sep 5, 2012 9:58 am	TechSY730	Note Edited: 0028223
Sep 5, 2012 9:58 am	TechSY730	Note Edited: 0028223
Sep 5, 2012 11:36 pm	Faulty Logic	Note Added: 0028245
Sep 6, 2012 12:38 am	Battlecrydnx	Note Added: 0028246
Sep 6, 2012 12:39 am	Battlecrydnx	Note Edited: 0028246
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Internal Weight	=> New
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Note Added: 0028599
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Status	new => resolved
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Fixed in Version	=> 5.090
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Resolution	open => fixed
Oct 5, 2012 2:51 pm	keith.lamothe	Assigned To	=> keith.lamothe